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CrownRoyal   United States. Feb 05 2009 19:59. Posts 11385
Alright so I really didn't think it would ever come to this but here is my situation.

I'm off work for a couple weeks because there isn't any work to be done right now. I have like 2.5k liquid dollars to my name and some bills to pay and I'm not comfortable depositing right now + i told myself I would never deposit again. My bankroll is pretty hurt right now because i dropped 50 buyins @ $2 180 mans the other day and tilted off a hundred more dollars playing 1/2 8game.

I have nothing to do for two weeks and I think I'm an A+ investment in 180 mans I'm ranked ~#15 in total profit for 2009 in $2 or less tournaments, ranked ~16th in average ROI over your past 500 games in $2 tournaments and ranked ~9 in $2 sngs with 6 tables or more total income or something like that.

I'll promise to play at least 50 $12 180 mans a day and would assume I can attain a 50% roi relatively easily.

I want a stake to play $12 180 mans and or if you want any mtt with a buyin under $11

so just for fun looking at some numbers if i played for a week @ 50 games a day that's 350 games

so 12 x 350 is $4200 and I'm saying that I can attain a 50% roi that's 2100 profit to be split between you and me however we agree to do it


If anyone is seriously interested you can sharkscope me @ tehskies ps/ftp and see good results from both sites and PM me or hit me up on AIM @ terranupmyheartt or @ msn @ caleb _ 012 _ @ hotmail dot com without the spaces obviously.

edit - apparently dropping 50 buyins hurt my stats and I don't have those 3 achievments on sharkscope anymore, only one of them but I promise I did just 2 days ago and my ROI was over 100% in the $2 180 mans as well I'm not trying to hustle anyone if there is some way to look at sharkscope from 3-4 days ago you'll see it for yourself but I'm not sure how to do that.

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WHAT IS THISLast edit: 05/02/2009 20:02

NeillyJQ   United States. Feb 05 2009 20:05. Posts 8947

no offense man, but someone would have to be mentally ill to stake you, you try to play -ev games and your asking for stakes in tournaments that you haven't even played a large sample of, on top of that, your asking for 4k, when your not even good for $10

dude, either redeposit a small amount and grind it up like we all did, or use fpps to make money.

haha, whichever way u look at it, u promised to never re-deposit at new years, so if u do that u lose, and if someone stakes you, both of you lose, this is a win win for me, YAH!

Just remember you need to be god damn sure about their tendencies. -Artanis11 http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/neillyaa/Last edit: 05/02/2009 20:06

Raidern   Brasil. Feb 05 2009 20:13. Posts 4243

deposit some and then grind
kinda weird to say "i wont deposit" but ask for a stake, wtf.
so is it ok to risk OTHERS money, but not yours, ic

im a regular at nl5Last edit: 05/02/2009 20:13

CrownRoyal   United States. Feb 05 2009 20:17. Posts 11385

neilly plz sharkscope me you have no idea what you're talking about i have a really solid proof that i can win @ sngs over 6k games or more.

I would never ask for a stake for something I didn't know from experience that I can beat, you guys can call me delusional if what im asking for is something that i somehow can't beat?? But I can tell you if I had 20k sitting around as one of you knowing what I know about myself and I seen this blog post I would instantly jump on board for it I think it's pretty rare to find someone willing to put in the hours I'm willing to put in for a quick easy pickup of cash.

I don't even know how to reply to what you just said and not look like a retard so i'll just hope someone can oversee that post I wish I could just get it out of here cause I don't need any of your nonsense in a blog where all im looking for is business and nothing good can come of what you put as the #1 post

You're ridiculously selfish with your "win win for me" comment as well it's not like you're my rival in life or something you're some random dude that is fun to make fun of sometimes. I haven't said a bad thing about you since you cried in public about me and I even apologized to you I dunno wtf your problem is man.

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CrownRoyal   United States. Feb 05 2009 20:22. Posts 11385


  On February 05 2009 19:13 Raidern wrote:
deposit some and then grind
kinda weird to say "i wont deposit" but ask for a stake, wtf.
so is it ok to risk OTHERS money, but not yours, ic


Why is it that nutshot and new born baby and every other mtt player in the world when they cant afford to or feel uncomfortable can ask for a stake and it be just business related but I get this.

I'm risking their money, yes, but so is playing the stock market or you even sitting at a poker table and playing. This is merely you looking at what I present and deciding if you are comfortable with taking the risk that I will win and or if you even think I can, and if you think I can't that's fine. I'm not trying to say I'm the worlds greatest poker player because pretty clearly I'm not. As I stated in my first post i'm not comfortable with depositing an amount of money that is sufficient to play $12 180 mans because I don't know how long i'm gonna be off work and I have 2.5k liquid dollars to live on hopefully just for a week or two.

Ugh

WHAT IS THISLast edit: 05/02/2009 20:24

Raidern   Brasil. Feb 05 2009 20:38. Posts 4243

look I don't think what I posted is related to skill
I don't know how good of a player you are, and I wouldn't say "hey dont ask for a stake, you suck"
But I think that the fact that you say "i told myself I would never deposit again" and ask for a stake makes it all very inconsistent.

im a regular at nl5Last edit: 05/02/2009 20:39

k2o4   United States. Feb 05 2009 20:39. Posts 4803

I think the risk comes in your tilting and going up limits and spewing, or getting drunk and spewing. You could be cruising away making that 50% ROI and then go out and drink another bottle of patron and wake up to find that it's all gone cause you decided to 4 table NL400 and got raped while wasted. =)

Just use FPP to win donkaments and then use the t$ to play real tournies and grind and build. Until you learn to stop spewing off your own money I don't think anyone will risk their money on you. Hell I like you more than pretty much everyone here on LP and I know you can beat micro poker games but I wouldn't stake you even if I had 100k. Part of that is cause I'm a nit who hates staking people, but the other part is that I would be worried about a drunken tilt off. Plus I think if you did pull it off and not lose the stake money and pay the investor 1k and everything went perfectly, you'd end up spewing it all off pretty soon anyway cause you haven't learned how to respect your BR. I have no idea what would have to happen to get you to keep a bankroll but my theory is that part of it is grinding the BR the hard way. I know that helped me. hehe

GL pal

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SIG1   United States. Feb 05 2009 20:43. Posts 651

i love forum dramas


CrownRoyal   United States. Feb 05 2009 20:46. Posts 11385

brett i'd never ever do that with anyone elses money and I can't remember the last time I ever wanted to play poker drunk outside of being @ the casino.

you can look @ my stats on any of those hh database sites and see that I never play above nl100 either...

I would make a promise in whatever way possible to whoever wants to stake me that I will not play outside of the rules of the stake and if i did i'd pay them back 2x whatever they staked me to begin with. Yes, I can and would do that. I promise I am not gonna do anything but grind man I have nothing to do for 2 weeks and I just want to make the maximum amount that I think i'm capable of and I want to make some other lucky dude some money too

WHAT IS THISLast edit: 05/02/2009 20:47

Fayth    Canada. Feb 05 2009 21:09. Posts 10085

Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy 

GirlsRVicious   United States. Feb 06 2009 00:08. Posts 1094

That's plenty to waffle crush some 1/2 nitting it up

LOL Live Pokerz 

k2o4   United States. Feb 06 2009 01:23. Posts 4803


  On February 05 2009 18:59 CrownRoyal wrote:
Alright so I really didn't think it would ever come to this but here is my situation.

I'm off work for a couple weeks because there isn't any work to be done right now. I have like 2.5k liquid dollars to my name and some bills to pay and I'm not comfortable depositing right now + i told myself I would never deposit again. My bankroll is pretty hurt right now because i dropped 50 buyins @ $2 180 mans the other day and tilted off a hundred more dollars playing 1/2 8game.



what is a 1/2 8 game? I read that as NL200 8 tabling or some shit.

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kaisr   Canada. Feb 06 2009 14:22. Posts 1058

8game is NLHE,PLO,2-7TripleDraw + HORSE games on Rotation


NeillyJQ   United States. Feb 06 2009 14:27. Posts 8947

dude, ur not even a tourney player, and ur sharkscope is good but mine is better and i suck at donkaments

so what does that prove?
nothing.

you shouldnt be playing tournaments, you should be learning discipline and FUCKING GRINDING UP THE LIMITS LIKE YOUR SUPPOSED TO.

Do it right and you SHOULD see the light.

Dude, I make $32 an hour at NL25 and im moving up to nl50 right now, where the competetion is just about the same. So in 10 days time I've progressed from $32 to $55-60/hr

I play 5 hours a day for $250 a day, thats $1500 a week and $6k a month

why the fuck do u want to play SnG's when u can't get anywhere in that circuit
theres no fucking money to be made past the $20 level

Is that all you thrive to be, a $12 player for the rest of your life?

And you fufcking tell everyone YOU ARE A RECREATIONAL PLAYER, Why THE FUCK WOULD ANYONE WANT TO STAKE A RECREATION PLAYER

Dude, you really have to re-evaluate your general perspective of poker in my opinion which is why you piss me off and im just letting the community know the fucking truth. because even if you win a tourney for them, i bet we find you playing tournies way outside your roll and hu, you do that shit all the time.

i used to do that shit, its pathetic man, it gets u no where.

start grinding now, spend a few days on each micro and you'll be making solid money man.

Just remember you need to be god damn sure about their tendencies. -Artanis11 http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/neillyaa/ 

NeillyJQ   United States. Feb 06 2009 14:28. Posts 8947

so, u got fired right?

wheres floofy when we need him lawl

Just remember you need to be god damn sure about their tendencies. -Artanis11 http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/neillyaa/ 

CrownRoyal   United States. Feb 06 2009 14:55. Posts 11385

im not fired? There just aren't any projects going on and i'm a field technician so if there isn't anything needing upgrading/work done then i can't be working??

i seriously hope i never meet you in real life neilly

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CrownRoyal   United States. Feb 06 2009 14:56. Posts 11385

oh, and i make more money than you do (that you're going to lose via tilt eventually) working less hours than you do and it's guaranteed with my job so fuck off you dumb delusional retard

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Bejamin1   Canada. Feb 06 2009 15:01. Posts 7042

Neilly I know you've started to get your shit together lately, but considering your history with poker in general I don't think it is fair that you are so aggressively spewing negativity all over his blog. If you don't want to stake him and you consider him a bad investment then its fine for you to say such things but you can do that in one line you don't need 10 posts to make your point.

Crown, the players you've mentioned all required stakes for high level games and have consistently beat much more difficult tournaments than what you are proposing to play. As of right now in the eyes of this community you are a typical micro-stakes grinder with tilt and drunk poker issues. What you should really be asking for is a loan, presuming you have some credentials in terms of paying back debts on monies borrowed from this community and what not.

Sorry dude he Jason Bourned me. -Johnny Drama 

NeillyJQ   United States. Feb 06 2009 15:03. Posts 8947

you fucking wish that i would lose it, fact of the matter is my br management + my family of players around me will never let that happen

GG you

oh, and when i go to nl100 and nl200 i'll be DOMINATING your salary

G_G

and if i ever meet you irl, i'll give you one chance, if you fuck up i'll knock you the FUCK OUT

Just remember you need to be god damn sure about their tendencies. -Artanis11 http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/neillyaa/ 

vegable   United States. Feb 06 2009 15:19. Posts 2453

lol oh you two...

Stir fry Normandy 

 
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