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k2o4   United States. Feb 06 2009 15:12. Posts 4803
First I admit that I am not an economist. I have a very basic understanding of what's going on with this depression, what caused it and how to fix it. What I do know is that I spent a shitload of time researching Obama before voting for him and the #1 reason I supported him was because I believed he was extremely intelligent and capable of listening to all sides of a debate and finding the right solution. I deeply believe he doesn't pick a side due to politics and will listen to Republicans just as much as he does to democrats and take the good ideas from both sides. He already has the most diverse cabinet with more members of the opposite party in like 30 years. He's reached out to republicans like crazy and given them his ear, and they have nearly all complemented his performance. I think he's living up to what I believed he would do.

Basically I'm saying that in areas where I am not an expert, I trust Obama to make the decisions for me. I trust that he will get the best experts on the area together and get the best advice necessary. I believe he is intelligent enough to fully understand what these experts are saying, and that he is capable of seeing a much larger picture for the future and the long term, which I think is crucial. And I believe he will look at the advice objectively and filter out the partisan crap from both sides.

Take those beliefs and add to them the fact that everything I have heard about Obama's plan for a stimulus bill sounds good to me, and I'm backing him 100% here. My understanding is that Obama has a huge focus on getting Americans back to work doing jobs that will improve this country and set us up to be much better off in the long run, with a focus on green energy, breaking dependence on foreign oil, and infrastructure.

I know we need to do something. Things are bad and getting worse. It's scary driving around my neighborhood. There's houses for sale everywhere, apartments for rent, and closed businesses. I live in an area that 1 year ago was having a bit of a boom as people were throwing money into rebuilding it and businesses were moving in like crazy. It was on its way to being a new Denver hot spot. Today I see several businesses which have been here for over 50 years closed down, most of the new places that opened up are now empty, and lots of new buildings that were just built still are looking for tenants. It's pretty scary to see. Something needs to be done and I believe in Obama's plan on how to get things back on track. I don't expect any sort of instant fix and I know things will get worse before they get better, but if we can turn this challenge into an opportunity to pave a path to a prosperous future where we're not dependent on foreign oil, where we have green energy, where we have good affordable healthcare, and where all Americans are getting a fair shake and have the opportunity to achieve the American dream once again, then I am on board.

So here's his speech on the stimulus which I watched and thought was great. Below are some excerpts that I thought were very good, plus the entire speech in a spoiler.

(Speech starts out with jokes and thank you's so you might wanna skip that part by going to about 2:40)






  So just as past generations of Americans have done in trying times, we can and must turn this moment of challenge into one of opportunity. The plan that you've passed has at its core a simple idea: let's put Americans to work doing the work that America needs done.

This plan will save or create over three million jobs - almost all of them in the private sector.

This plan will put people to work rebuilding our crumbling roads and bridges; our dangerously deficient dams and levees.

This plan will put people to work modernizing our health care system, not only saving us billions of dollars, but countless lives.

This plan will put people to work renovating more than 10,000 schools, giving millions of children the chance to learn in 21st century classrooms, libraries, and labs - and to all the scientists in the room today, you know what that means for America's future.

This plan will provide sensible tax relief for the struggling middle-class, unemployment insurance and continued health care coverage for those who've lost their jobs, and it will help prevent our states and local communities from laying off firefighters, teachers, and police.

Finally, this plan will begin to end the tyranny of oil in our time. It doubles our capacity to generate alternative sources of energy like wind, solar, and biofuels in three years. It saves taxpayers billions of dollars by making federal buildings more energy efficient, and it saves the average working family hundreds on their energy bills. After decades of empty rhetoric, that is the down payment that we need on energy independence.



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Sheitan   Canada. Feb 06 2009 16:06. Posts 4217

While i do think Obama was the most ev+ move the americans could make in this very precise situation, he's not the messiah and can't make miracles. Bush administration fucked all of us pretty bad (and more the americans), and it will take a couple of years before we get back on our feet, but we will. So far, Obama seems to do what he said he'd do and i hope he keeps working with his team and soften the blows.

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seatown12   United States. Feb 06 2009 19:13. Posts 1193

The problem I have is that he and the Democratic leadership in Congress are lumping all the projects they want into the "stimulus" bill whether or not they are directly related to actually stimulating the economy. People will accept deep deficits if they believe it is necessary to fix the economic downturn, and the Dems are taking advantage of that to pass their entire agenda, which is why few Republicans are in favor of the bill. Obama has shown token bipartisanship by having a few Republicans to the White House for parties and crap but when it comes to policy he has been pretty liberal, and his choices for cabinet positions have been strikingly old-guard Democrat. In general Obama has done little to dissuade me of my initial impression that he was a big talker.

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TheTank   United States. Feb 06 2009 19:16. Posts 830

FDR's new deal caused it...
yes, it helped fix the great depression, but this is the aftermath. They are giving away sooooo much money in welfare (started by FDR) and you can't just take welfare away...i mean if i gave you $100 a week to make a living off of, and thats how you got by, and i just take it away from you and cut you off, arent you going to be pissed?

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tl;dr (except for the first 2 lines)

sigh...its like they are throwing money out of a helicopter and i dont have any hands...so i just break even.Last edit: 06/02/2009 19:19

TheTank   United States. Feb 06 2009 19:18. Posts 830


  On February 06 2009 18:13 TedHastings wrote:
The problem I have is that he and the Democratic leadership in Congress are lumping all the projects they want into the "stimulus" bill whether or not they are directly related to actually stimulating the economy. People will accept deep deficits if they believe it is necessary to fix the economic downturn, and the Dems are taking advantage of that to pass their entire agenda, which is why few Republicans are in favor of the bill. Obama has shown token bipartisanship by having a few Republicans to the White House for parties and crap but when it comes to policy he has been pretty liberal, and his choices for cabinet positions have been strikingly old-guard Democrat. In general Obama has done little to dissuade me of my initial impression that he was a big talker.



if i remember correctly, rep's were unanimous along with 11 dem's with "nay" votes

sigh...its like they are throwing money out of a helicopter and i dont have any hands...so i just break even. 

k2o4   United States. Feb 06 2009 19:34. Posts 4803

ted i'm curious what you think is "pork" in there that is just dem agenda rather than helpful stimulus? obv some of the house tried to slip shit in but I felt like they caught the stupidest stuff, but republicans kept bitching and giving ridiculous examples.

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