My first Doomswitch

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That puts me 1.7k below expectation for the month. Basically 17 buyins. Watch out maynard, I'm coming after you for the most painful EV graph award!

Today @ NL100:


Feb so far:


I feel like I'm playing great too. I did spew a bit early in my 3k hand session vs donks in probably close to break even EV spots, but otherwise I hit a shit load of coolers and beats. The end of my session was brutal because it was like "yes hands!" and I'm thinking that I'm about to get into the green and then "NO SHIT!" and a 2 buyin loss turns into a 5 buyin loss. lolz.

Must weather the storm! I'll probably do a lot more NL50 HU to feel better about myself and not worry about the money.

Oh, also played 3 donkaments tonight and the bad beats continued there to get me knocked out about 100 from the bubble in all 3. woot! At least I should have more hands played than milkman now.

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Those dont look like coolers to me o.O not ridiculous ones atleast..

actually id say the only hand thats a cooler is the aces if it was against a really loose player

On February 07 2009 03:21 street_hooker wrote: Those dont look like coolers to me o.O not ridiculous ones atleast..

you're joking right? The last hand is the only one which might be spew rather than cooler but considering what a donk he was I feel like it's more cooler. maybe not RIDICULOUS, but they feel that way when it's back to back to back (3 hands happened on the same table literally dealt right after each other)

eh i dont know the history of any of those hands maybe they were coolers against crazy players but if u won the coinflip then he would be the one saying he got coolered it's not like they sucked out on any of them

street_hooker a cooler is NOT a suckout

those were all coolers except maybe the AQ hand which is more player dependent

sick hands brett :

Naw brett's a superdonk, but that's why I'm his fanboy.

They're coolers but there's nothing too sick about them. Having 5 coolers like those in a 3k hand session is not bad at all.

Getting doomswitched is more along the lines of losing with AA/KK 7 times in a row (yes, there is irony in that you normally wouldn't see AA/KK 7 times in 3k hands), getting set over setted or flush over flushed a few times, getting runner runner'd at least twice, in addition to the above coolers plus about 8 more similar ones, within 3k hands. And then having the process more or less repeated over the next 30k hands.

u should watch that tiger woods commercial where his dad talks when they released it after his dad was passed for awhile (ithink) it makes me cry and want to get back up another day they kept playing it during that tournament where he had some major leg injury but kept quiet and won in a playoff, really epic, yeah :O



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Ahem

Submitted by : edzwoo

PokerStars Game #24678058692: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2009/02/07 1:12:08 CT [2009/02/07 2:12:08 ET]
Table Kalchas III 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: PO1192 ($70.10 in chips)
Seat 2: Nathan_S1985 ($100 in chips)
Seat 3: edzwoo ($130.95 in chips)
Seat 4: robpocker ($43.15 in chips)
Seat 5: k2o4 ($133.50 in chips)
k2o4: posts small blind $0.50
PO1192: posts big blind $1

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to edzwoo
Nathan_S1985: folds
edzwoo: raises $3 to $4
robpocker: folds
k2o4: calls $3.50
PO1192: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $9.00)

   
k2o4: checks
edzwoo: bets $6
k2o4: raises $13.50 to $19.50
edzwoo: calls $13.50

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $48.00)

   
k2o4: checks
edzwoo: checks

River (Pot : $48.00)

   
k2o4: checks
edzwoo: checks

Showdown
k2o4: shows (a pair of Tens)
edzwoo: mucks hand
k2o4 collected $46 from pot

Summary
Total pot $48 | Rake $2
Board  
Seat 1: PO1192 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Nathan_S1985 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: edzwoo mucked
Seat 4: robpocker (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: k2o4 (small blind) showed and won ($46) with a pair of Tens

that is indeed how sick you run k2o4 (lol)

AQo didnt seem like a cooler
A7s hand you were a 60/40 dog
QQ vs AKo was a flip that didn't go in your favor
AA vs 22, cooler but villain dependent
AKo hand, eh could've went either way, bet/call, or c/f turn, eh

i guess i dont know much about villains so i can't be certain about everything
but gl in future sessions

Yeha , this hands werent ridiculous coolers ....
all pretty standart stuff that happens to everybody in almost every session.

A ridiculous cooler is when u are very certain that u have by far the better hand than villian. Then it turns out he hit the board in a wired way that makes no sense but beats u by a mile.
Like when u have AA on a 33K board in a 3 bet pf pot and villians shows up with A3 >-<

IN your cases it was all more like : " Well my hand is too strong to fold but i cant be too happy either since i am flipping here almost always."

Just saying this cause in a downswing ( which o obviously have) people tend to see things worse than they are which often leads to tilt ( i am expert in this >-<
they loose AK vs QQ preflop all in and see it as sick cooler ... when in fact its pretty standard stuff that happens every session to everybody at one point


GL

On February 07 2009 03:53 TheReason wrote: They're coolers but there's nothing too sick about them. Having 5 coolers like those in a 3k hand session is not bad at all. Getting doomswitched is more along the lines of losing with AA/KK 7 times in a row (yes, there is irony in that you normally wouldn't see AA/KK 7 times in 3k hands), getting set over setted or flush over flushed a few times, getting runner runner'd at least twice, in addition to the above coolers plus about 8 more similar ones, within 3k hands. And then having the process more or less repeated over the next 30k hands.

Oh that's not everything from the session. That was just the last ~5 minutes, which is why I posted em. I don't want to post like 20 painful hands in my blog. And I didn't even post the suckouts!

On February 07 2009 04:37 edzwoo wrote: Ahem Submitted by : edzwoo PokerStars Game #24678058692: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2009/02/07 1:12:08 CT [2009/02/07 2:12:08 ET] Table Kalchas III 6-max Seat #4 is the button Seat 1: PO1192 ($70.10 in chips) Seat 2: Nathan_S1985 ($100 in chips) Seat 3: edzwoo ($130.95 in chips) Seat 4: robpocker ($43.15 in chips) Seat 5: k2o4 ($133.50 in chips) k2o4: posts small blind $0.50 PO1192: posts big blind $1 Holecards(Odds) Dealt to edzwoo Nathan_S1985: folds edzwoo: raises $3 to $4 robpocker: folds k2o4: calls $3.50 PO1192: folds Flop(Odds) (Pot : $9.00)     k2o4: checks edzwoo: bets $6 k2o4: raises $13.50 to $19.50 edzwoo: calls $13.50 Turn(Odds) (Pot : $48.00)     k2o4: checks edzwoo: checks River (Pot : $48.00)     k2o4: checks edzwoo: checks Showdown k2o4: shows (a pair of Tens) edzwoo: mucks hand k2o4 collected $46 from pot Summary Total pot $48 | Rake $2 Board   Seat 1: PO1192 (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 2: Nathan_S1985 folded before Flop (didnt bet) Seat 3: edzwoo mucked Seat 4: robpocker (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet) Seat 5: k2o4 (small blind) showed and won ($46) with a pair of Tens And the AK vs AA hand where you stacked me.

AK vs AA and I had AK and stacked you? i gotta search for that cause I definitely don't remember it. And that hand you just posted isn't for a buyin so it doesn't count! =)

i have to agree with the comments, if this is your worst downswing then you run good :-)

On February 07 2009 06:11 PplusAD wrote: A ridiculous cooler is when u are very certain that u have by far the better hand than villian. Then it turns out he hit the board in a wired way that makes no sense but beats u by a mile. Like when u have AA on a 33K board in a 3 bet pf pot and villians shows up with A3 >-<

where did you guys learn the definition of a cooler? lol. A cooler is when you get it in as the right move but are still behind and lose. easiest example is KK vs AA AIPF - you were dominated the entire time but it's always the right move to get it in so even though you lost and were dominated from the start, it's a cooler. Hence why a flush draw + 2 overs + a gutshot on the flop is a cooler.

they loose AK vs QQ preflop all in and see it as sick cooler ... when in fact its pretty standard stuff that happens every session to everybody at one point

The QQ hand I posted was worse when I throw in the situation behind it. His range there was super wide due to the dynamic so for him to have better was annoying but for him to run good and hit was super annoying. I think it was also extra tilting cause I'd just gotten it AIPF with KK and JJ vs short stacks and lost KK vs AK and JJ vs KQ - losing flips on top of flips on top of flips =)

But at the end of the day QQ vs AK is a cooler, especially when he raises like that with the dynamic going on the table.

On February 07 2009 06:36 gororokgororok wrote: i have to agree with the comments, if this is your worst downswing then you run good :-)

you guys are killing me! I post a few hands and say "here's the shitty hands that hit me at the end of the session" and you guys respond with "wow if those were ur only bad hands then u got nothing to complain about!" I never said they were my only bad hands. The reason they were significant is that they happened in like 5 minutes and 3 of them were 3 hands in a row on the same table! I doubled 3 different people on that table in 3 hands. ridiculous.

I do have to say that on the bright side despite being way below in EV and way high in coolers that screw me over, I'm still only down a little bit right now and I've been floating close to break even most of the month so far. My EV is going up but my actual winnings are basically just flat lining. They could be going down and that would totally suck. So that is the bright side - it's not a soul destroying downswing yet!

On February 07 2009 06:38 k2o4 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 07 2009 06:36 gororokgororok wrote: i have to agree with the comments, if this is your worst downswing then you run good :-) you guys are killing me! I post a few hands and say "here's the shitty hands that hit me at the end of the session" and you guys respond with "wow if those were ur only bad hands then u got nothing to complain about!" I never said they were my only bad hands. The reason they were significant is that they happened in like 5 minutes and 3 of them were 3 hands in a row on the same table! I doubled 3 different people on that table in 3 hands. ridiculous.

I understand your point about several of these happening in a short timespan, but it's still a lot more common occurrence than you seem to think.

Also it might have something to do with the way you worded it "ridiculous coolers". A rediculous cooler is when you're 200bb's++ deep with a total maniac nutjob, 3-bet him with 88 and the flop comes 983, you get it in on flop and he has 99. If you had 4 of those back to back in 5 minutes I think you would get more sympathy. As it is you say you're on a "downswing" and people are going to go "downswing? lol".