Day 2

My next question is, earlier I asked k2o4 about limping in early position with small pocket pairs and he said not to so I have been thinking more about limping in EP/MP with medium pairs and it seems as if by limping I am actually reducing my hands value. For one, I can't play my set as profitably from earlier position if it hits, and two, by betting I might chase out some drawing hands and create a better position for myself at the table. So I have been open raising medium pairs such as 1010 EP and MP and follow up according to board texture and opponents strength pre flop. If I am re raised pre flop more than what the immediate pot odds would warrant as a correct call, I look at the opponents stack size and apply the 5/10 rule deciding if it would be profitable for the chance to possibly stack him if my set did hit. Post flop, if the board texture looks promising (such as holding 1010 with board being 982 rainbow) I will bet near pot size if checked to by multiple players but value bet instead if checked to by only one player. If I am first to act I will continuation bet and call a re raise if it's not too large but c/f the following streets. If I am only called I will continue to value bet (offering him bad pot odds for whichever draw he's on) until I have reason to believe he has me beat or if a higher card or draw hits in which case I just bet and call a small re raise but then c/f. Should I not bother calling the re raise? When he raises is what I am supposed to take into consideration the chances he is bluffing + the chances I have to improve? I think I play the following hand maybe a little too weakly, I feel confident after the flop since he only called preflop and checked to me with a good board. I value bet since I was pretty sure one would fold and wanted to give the one that stayed poor drawing odds to the flush but not chase him out completely. I continue to give him poor odds but once the king hits I wasn't too sure if he would have it so I decided to c/f from thereon but looking back, a value bet offering poor odds for a flush draw and calling his re raise if it was small enough would have been a better option I guess. Which brings me back to the question on how much of a bet should I call just to c/f to the following turn.

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This next hand I wasn't too sure that if I was being too careless in making the call but I figured since the player raised preflop he'd probably be holding a high pair like KK-JJ but so when I saw Q on board I figured he could possibly have hit his set but why wouldn't he be trying to trap me with it like most players? So I decided to call his all in and having him covered also made my decision easier. Should I have not called if he had a similar stack size as me?

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And finally I bet near pot size nearly every street this hand since I am in EP and there are many draws out there but unfortunately an ace hits the board at the end and I didn't want to pay him off to see it. Should I have bet then folded/called? I felt like he was just a floater looking for an ace to drop so he could get paid off.

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Another hand where I lose with KK, should I have bet on the turn after being checked too? Once again I wasn't scared enough to fold right away because of the flush after it hit since I had a diamond in hand (k2o4 also told me that I should continue betting if flush draw hits when I have AA and one of my aces is the same suit as the flush draw and to call if it c/c if it isn't and then c/f following hands).


K that's it for now guys, I hope to hear some good advice from you.

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sorry ignore last hand, i double posted wrong one but if you could offer any general advice for that situation i'd be grateful

nice nl2 nit..

but thats quite TOOO nitty in many spots IMO

seriously you flop set of jacks.. i couldnt ever on any limit check that riv behind.. lool ^^

anyway .. other hands are alright.. still pretty tight and i prolly call river with KK in last one ;p meh its not even 1/2 pot and since A came on river he might as well do this with any J or any PP to bluff imho

well beside that you shouldnt have problems on your limit playing that tight i guess


gl

type long posts in notepad or word so you don't lose em - it's worth it to avoid the serious life tilt that LP induces sometimes through lost posts.

hand 1: if he gives a timing tell then I can understand slowing down on the river. but I think you're best off betting something and folding to a shove since fish will call so often with bad hands and you're missing value from like every Q. Also bet pot on turn.

hand 2: first off I was thinking 6max when I said to open all PP's from any position. My bad. Small PP's should be limped EP. As for the hand, flop is horrible. Bet bigger. Turn is horrible. Bet that turn. River if you wanna do a smaller VB do 1/2 or 2/3. You should have gone pot flop pot turn 2/3 ri. or at least 3/4 flop 3/4 turn 2/3 ri.

hand 3: you raised preflop. he open limped. you have to call this flop shove. As for having him covered, remember you're @ NL2. That means you're already 2.5 buyins deep. He was nearly 2 buyins deep. Normally this is a reason to be more cautious. But at the same time, these guys don't realize that

Hand 4: pot flop pot turn check/call river unless you have a read and are sure he's only betting there with an ace or better.

(k2o4 also told me that I should continue betting if flush draw hits when I have AA and one of my aces is the same suit as the flush draw and to call if it c/c if it isn't and then c/f following hands).

miscommunication - I was talking about a 3 suited flop. On the turn it's different. On a 3 suited flop with AA and the case ace you usually have to get it in. On a turn where a flush hits and the case ace it's much more complicated and position/player dependent.