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Sliggy   Australia. Mar 04 2009 00:41. Posts 742
Just a couple of questions about these concepts.

e.g. 3betting raises preflop. If I'm going to reraise somebody who has raised on the BU or CO, what's a good range to do so, and what stats am I looking for on villain?

Also, what kind of stats / situations am I looking for on initial raisers and callers when I'm looking to squeeze?


I realize both are entirely situational and should be used in moderation. I'm just wondering (generally) what circumstances are good / ideal / +EV for these types of plays?

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DONKEYLUVIN   United States. Mar 04 2009 01:15. Posts 292

Against fishy players, its good to 3 bet maybe AT+ , KJ+ and probably TT+ in position....especially if these fish have a tendency to call 3 bets oop. This is obviously a raise for value, and if you hit your top pair you can comfortably get the money in on the next couple streets.

Against better players its good to mix up your play and 3 bet light on occasion, for example if a good regular opens from the CO and you're on the button 3 bet with a hand like 67s sometimes or a weak suited ace as a light 3 bet, and probably AQ+ JJ+ for value. Pay attention to how often these players raise preflop and if they raise often obviously they have a larger range and you can 3 bet lighter more often. This makes you a more unpredictable as they have to guess whether you're doing it light or for value. Also tend to 3 bet these types of players more often if they are in Late position.....you don't want to be light 3 betting a good player's UTG raise very often, as they will often be strong and probably come over the top and you have to fold.

Squeezing works similarly as you'll want to raise more often when the original raiser is in a later position and has a wider raising range, this is if your holdings are weak of course.


phexac   United States. Mar 04 2009 01:19. Posts 2563

This is not a question that can be answered in a blog comment section. The topic is very complex, and the only way to learn about it is through experience and discussion of your plays. If I were you, I would post hands in forums where you 3bet or were thinking of 3betting and see what people say. After a while you should start getting a decent feel for what the thinking process behind 3bets is.

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PandaSaurus   Australia. Mar 04 2009 03:32. Posts 1651

If you're playing micro stakes I wouldn't bother.

It's much easier to win playing ABC.

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fenner   Australia. Mar 04 2009 04:34. Posts 2188


  On March 04 2009 02:32 PandaSaurus wrote:
If you're playing micro stakes I wouldn't bother.

It's much easier to win playing ABC.



"Don't bother trying to improve, its easier not to."


Uptown   . Mar 04 2009 05:08. Posts 3557

first stake you need to start to think about 3betting is NL50

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PandaSaurus   Australia. Mar 04 2009 05:51. Posts 1651


  On March 04 2009 03:34 fenner wrote:
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"Don't bother trying to improve, its easier not to."


This clearly isn't what I'm saying. Micro stakes only gets complicated when you try getting too tricky. All I'm saying is solid ABC play is better in the long run as opposed to getting overly fancy when everyone is just playing their cards anyway.

Micro stakes players aren't wondering if you're squeezing. They look at their AJo and will call a lot of the time regardless.

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