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fira United States. Mar 04 2009 19:26. Posts 6345

I seem to have come to a BR ceiling. Played a session just now and lost 6bi in about 400 hands. I can't seem to get anywhere, and feel like I might be stuck at 600nl for the rest of my poker career. The showdown hands I get myself into are almost exclusively coinflips, and it seems that I've proven the law of large numbers in flipping and how it's entirely 0 EV. As I've mentioned before in an earlier post, my red line (non-showdown winnings) is always around break-even, so it just comes down to simple addition: 0 + 0 = 0.

Here's my 2009 graph:

I feel like I'm just wasting time sitting at the tables because every time I get a 5 bi upswing it's immediately met by a 5 bi downswing, and it's getting really old. I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong because all the showdown hands are basically coinflips. I've asked about the non-showdown line before but the consensus seemed to be that the lines don't really matter. I've been running a bit bad lately but nothing compared to some people on LP with like -10 bi in EV or something.

Here are a bunch of hands that happened in today's session or very recently. It just seems like I'm better off just coinflipping like a degen instead of actually playing the game. Then again I'm down like 8k from organized flips. :/

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k2o4 United States. Mar 04 2009 19:32. Posts 4803

Man have I ever felt that way too. Sometimes it just happens like that and you break even forever. For me things have always come around and gotten better if I just give it time.

The best thing to do imo is get someone who you respect and believe is a better player than you to give you some coaching. Not like 1 session or anything, try and organize for at least a month of full time.

GL

InnovativeYogis.com

ahk88 United States. Mar 04 2009 19:36. Posts 635

On March 04 2009 18:32 k2o4 wrote:
Man have I ever felt that way too. Sometimes it just happens like that and you break even forever. For me things have always come around and gotten better if I just give it time.

The best thing to do imo is get someone who you respect and believe is a better player than you to give you some coaching. Not like 1 session or anything, try and organize for at least a month of full time.

GL

I think he m eans me. I'll coach you.

domyouji Zimbabwe. Mar 04 2009 19:57. Posts 435

u shove ak too much, it's not an autoshove

to live the dream you gotta play the game

CrownRoyal United States. Mar 04 2009 20:07. Posts 11385

chen and caleb house!?!?!?

one time go?

WHAT IS THIS

gawdawaful Canada. Mar 04 2009 20:10. Posts 9012

does it help if I told you I'm like, breakeven this year?

Im only good at poker when I run good

collegesucks United States. Mar 04 2009 20:11. Posts 5780

On March 04 2009 18:57 domyouji wrote:
u shove ak too much, it's not an autoshove

rofl wtf????

CrownRoyal United States. Mar 04 2009 20:12. Posts 11385

ak is the fcking 3rd nuts

i hate all of you nits

WHAT IS THIS

curtinsea United States. Mar 04 2009 21:01. Posts 576

Do you ever play post-flop? Seriously, AK is a drawing hand. You don't have to always stack off with it . . . sometimes you can fold it.

tomorrow, for sure

djforever Canada. Mar 04 2009 21:17. Posts 1510

who folds ak ever. pleaseeeeee

fira United States. Mar 04 2009 21:23. Posts 6345

On March 04 2009 20:01 curtinsea wrote:
Do you ever play post-flop? Seriously, AK is a drawing hand. You don't have to always stack off with it . . . sometimes you can fold it.

so you're suggesting I flat 4bets with AK? or do I just not 3bet? -.-

Highcard Canada. Mar 04 2009 21:43. Posts 5428

sounds like you need to mix up your game in some way or another

I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time

Bigbobm United States. Mar 04 2009 22:24. Posts 5511

lol play more hands

Its time to stop thinking like a bitch and think smart like a poker player - ket

TheReason United States. Mar 04 2009 22:44. Posts 178

On March 04 2009 20:43 Highcard wrote:
sounds like you need to learn how to win flips

nolan Ireland. Mar 04 2009 22:46. Posts 6205

love the people who think AK isnt an autoshove.

On September 08 2008 10:07 Baal wrote: my head is a gyroscope, your argument is invalid

k2o4 United States. Mar 04 2009 22:49. Posts 4803

On March 04 2009 20:23 fira wrote:

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On March 04 2009 20:01 curtinsea wrote:
Do you ever play post-flop? Seriously, AK is a drawing hand. You don't have to always stack off with it . . . sometimes you can fold it.

so you're suggesting I flat 4bets with AK? or do I just not 3bet? -.-

definitely not flatting 4bets, that sounds horrible. maybe find more spots to call PF with it though.

InnovativeYogis.com

Exhilarate United States. Mar 05 2009 00:27. Posts 5453

On March 04 2009 21:49 k2o4 wrote:

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On March 04 2009 20:23 fira wrote:

On March 04 2009 20:01 curtinsea wrote:
Do you ever play post-flop? Seriously, AK is a drawing hand. You don't have to always stack off with it . . . sometimes you can fold it.

so you're suggesting I flat 4bets with AK? or do I just not 3bet? -.-

definitely not flatting 4bets, that sounds horrible. maybe find more spots to call PF with it though.

agreed

TheReason United States. Mar 05 2009 01:37. Posts 178

i think all this talk about trying to change the way you play AK is pretty results-oriented tbh.

you're a better player than me so i'm sure you know this, but whether or not you decide to flat AK more often in certain spots is largely dependant on what your overall 3-betting/flatting range is. i mean it's possible you should try flatting it more in position or w/e but it's not necessarily the case either. do these ppl making suggestions really know your game that well? -_-