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JYang   United States. Mar 23 2009 09:51. Posts 2669
when govt is basically guaranteeing safe and good (prolly 10%+/yr) returns on toxic asset bonds. i'm going to start looking for these funds to park long term assets in right now.

this is just news this morning. american tax payers are getting raped as usual

I'm still heavily short S&P, Retailers, Banks, and REIT. looking to diversify on govt backed toxic asset funds backed by tax payer $

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lachlan   Australia. Mar 23 2009 10:05. Posts 6991



thoughts? sell/buy?

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JYang   United States. Mar 23 2009 10:06. Posts 2669

i cant tell anythin from that chart (obv) but my view on the USD is that its going to be the strongest currency in the future (buy USD)


JYang   United States. Mar 23 2009 10:07. Posts 2669

it does look like a pretty decent bottoming pattern but i dont follow aud


JYang   United States. Mar 23 2009 10:07. Posts 2669

placing more ES futures shorts limit 800


ConquistadoR   Germany. Mar 23 2009 10:21. Posts 1952

Really makes me want to learn about stocks too. Could you recommend me any good site/tips on how to get started best?

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Jamie217   Canada. Mar 23 2009 10:48. Posts 4351

Yeah Lachlan you need more indicators than just the chart, I'd probably look to buy USD as well though like JY said


ToTehEastSide   United States. Mar 23 2009 10:57. Posts 1337

has to be a level
I feel like i just entered the twilight zone

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JYang   United States. Mar 23 2009 11:04. Posts 2669

k shorted more banks instead


luddite   United States. Mar 23 2009 12:00. Posts 398

are "toxic asset bonds" the same as junk bonds?


Baalim   Mexico. Mar 23 2009 12:06. Posts 34262

correct me if im wrong but a pattern like bottoming pattern wouldn apply here since its currendy trade and not a stock

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JYang   United States. Mar 23 2009 12:18. Posts 2669

it works for almost every liquid (large amts of buyers and sellers) market because its just kinda tells u the supply and demand for that market. illiquid and small markets can be raped by manipulation.

u really have to view it within a context kinda, like govt monetary policy and stuff.

how to make $ off it is not that easy (obv). i would think if u can spot good topping/bottoming patterns is that u pick a group of topping pattern stocks and short them. and long those bottoming stocks. and pretty much let it run and make some $.

im not a currency expert. but i do believe when everything is bad people will go to the US Dollar.. the worst is far from over.


JYang   United States. Mar 23 2009 12:19. Posts 2669


  On March 23 2009 11:00 luddite wrote:
are "toxic asset bonds" the same as junk bonds?



no

its just announced today give it some time to be advertised lol

since its govt backed unlike junk bonds. pretty much a guarantee


JYang   United States. Mar 23 2009 12:23. Posts 2669

i really dont have much sense of real monetary policy or etc

i just use the USD to confirm moves. like if stock market goes up while the dollar is up. its kinda like catching a bluff.

a strong dollar is deflationary and signals that govt didnt print enough money to make any sort of inflation.

now my personal opinion is that deflationary environments are good for normal people but bad for the gov't. but since govt controls everything they try their best not to let it happen. but this spot is fubar'd that their money pumping wont be enough anyway.


ConquistadoR   Germany. Mar 23 2009 13:34. Posts 1952


  On March 23 2009 09:21 ConquistadoR wrote:
Really makes me want to learn about stocks/trading too. Could you recommend me any good site/tips on how to get started best?


Sorry to bump, but care to help me out ? =)

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JYang   United States. Mar 23 2009 13:45. Posts 2669

ooops didnt read ur post for some reason lol



picked out books

2+2 bfi forum sticky is very good

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/30/...icky-links-rules-updated-01-17-a-932/

i had this in my previous blogs


ConquistadoR   Germany. Mar 23 2009 13:54. Posts 1952

Thanks a lot. Gonna check it out, hoping to join some discussions soon.

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