I want free lessons!

being good at sc doesn't mean you'll be good at poker, the only correlation there is intelligence. aka good sc players are likely to be smarter than bad players, same goes for poker

visit the 2p2 microstakes forums and read the stickies there.

use PT3 trial. by the time it expires you can afford it with your BR.
However, buy HEM, not PT3, b/c it is better in every single way.

GL!

i dont think the intelligence is the only correlation, and imo it is secondary to the obsessive approach to games that is common for all strong sc users who have played 5000 games. Without this obsession there is no use for sharp mind, but with it even someone who isnt the sharpest knife in the cabinet can make monies out of poker (at least with the current state of the games). Also I believe that by learning starcraft, one learns something about the method of learning a new game which proves useful on learning poker too.

So now I just withdrew out my initial deposit and I have $100 left. I don't really care about the money, I just want to crush everyone. How can I get better faster? Should I be playing one or two penny tables to learn more? Should I stick with six?(That's how many I've been doing.) How long(in hours) SHOULD it have taken me to turn my $50 into $200 playing the 1c/2c tables? Should I buy pokertracker? A book? I'd rather not invest any money from my personal account from now on if I can. How do I learn more? Do I just play 100,000 hands and absorb the basic situations and go "oh I've been here before, don't do what you did last time!"

Importnant! Dont play more than 6 tables! I didnt learn anything in like months because I was just 12 tabling and believed the guys who said "all it takes to beat micros is to raise good hands and go broke with TPTK+ always". And yeah just play and analyse the situations, its good to read like sklanskys books because that doesnt take much time nor money but developing your of ability to analyze situation is more importnant than any single tip you can pick up from a book (well books help a little bit on that too)

Sign up for the free one week trial at deucescracked.com, cancel your membership immediately, download all the videos that look relevant in your free week.

A few recommended series:
From the Ground Up
Math of NL Hold'em
Real Life Micro No Limit Grinder (starts at NL25 or NL50 though)

Poker books are 100% worthless because they're quickly outdated. Harrington on Cash Games is only a year old, but it's focused almost solely on medium/high stakes games against thinking opponents. It has excellent explanations of the basics, but you can get those for free from videos and on the web. In one section, Harrington practically admits the books are useless for weak games. If there's any book you should read, it's Sklansky's The Theory of Poker, but you'll ultimately pick up on everything in it by reading forums and watching videos anyway.

Four to six tables are perfect for learning. That's how many I play. They're enough to keep you engaged but still give you the freedom to observe the action and make notes on players. How long should it have taken to make $150 at 1c/2c? Assuming you're playing 500 hands/hr at 6 tables (probably less at full ring) and a comfortable 10 big bet per 100 hands win rate, that's 40 cents per 100 hands or $2/hr for 75 hours total. Sounds about right, although you really don't need $200 to be playing NL10 safely.

Learning should be a combination of playing hands and working on your strategy from some combination of videos, guides, forums, and hand history reviews (others and your own). If you think of it like Starcraft, reading guides is like memorizing build orders and hand histories are like replays. You'll do much better copying the pros than trying to create your own strategies. Playing 100k hands without knowing anything would be a terrible idea.

And of all the white people to see playing Starcraft... rekrul? Not Grrr, Elky, or even Legionnaire?

Try to keep these few things in mind when starting online poker.

-Patience
-Bankroll management
-play while stress free
-soild ABC poker
-no fancy plays out of postion
-and yes when you are raised on the turn or river, your top pair is crushed every time

Wow! Thanks for all the surprisingly quick feedback. I feel confident to move forward.

On March 27 2009 02:55 ShadowDrgn wrote: And of all the white people to see playing Starcraft... rekrul? Not Grrr, Elky, or even Legionnaire?

Meh. When I was on my "hey white dudes play SC too" kick I looked up others including Elky, but rekrul just happened to be the first name I came across.

WTF u ppl talking about?
Want a good advice?
Do not start playing poker.

Read this: http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-foru...t_starting_out__A_word_of_advice.html

Look up a bankroll management article and follow that.

Follow both/post hands/ ?????/ success!

On March 27 2009 02:55 ShadowDrgn wrote: Sign up for the free one week trial at deucescracked.com, cancel your membership immediately, download all the videos that look relevant in your free week. A few recommended series: From the Ground Up Math of NL Hold'em Real Life Micro No Limit Grinder (starts at NL25 or NL50 though) Poker books are 100% worthless because they're quickly outdated. Harrington on Cash Games is only a year old, but it's focused almost solely on medium/high stakes games against thinking opponents. It has excellent explanations of the basics, but you can get those for free from videos and on the web. In one section, Harrington practically admits the books are useless for weak games. If there's any book you should read, it's Sklansky's The Theory of Poker, but you'll ultimately pick up on everything in it by reading forums and watching videos anyway. Four to six tables are perfect for learning. That's how many I play. They're enough to keep you engaged but still give you the freedom to observe the action and make notes on players. How long should it have taken to make $150 at 1c/2c? Assuming you're playing 500 hands/hr at 6 tables (probably less at full ring) and a comfortable 10 big bet per 100 hands win rate, that's 40 cents per 100 hands or $2/hr for 75 hours total. Sounds about right, although you really don't need $200 to be playing NL10 safely. Learning should be a combination of playing hands and working on your strategy from some combination of videos, guides, forums, and hand history reviews (others and your own). If you think of it like Starcraft, reading guides is like memorizing build orders and hand histories are like replays. You'll do much better copying the pros than trying to create your own strategies. Playing 100k hands without knowing anything would be a terrible idea. And of all the white people to see playing Starcraft... rekrul? Not Grrr, Elky, or even Legionnaire?

god I hate people who abuse deuces for that but maybe they do that since you hope you will come back in like 3 months

On March 27 2009 03:29 Minion wrote: WTF u ppl talking about? Want a good advice? Do not start playing poker.

man...so true..