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niky752   United States. May 21 2009 14:00. Posts 0 | | |
Even in the 21st century, many shortsighted governments continue anti-gaming (and thus anti-poker) policies for no discernable reason other than habit, and lump poker in with ‘house’ games like roulette. Their knee-jerk arguments hearken back to a day when going and having a flutter was thought to be a one-way ticket to hell.
Today, folks know this isn’t the case, but government policies haven’t followed suit. In the UK, USA and many capitals throughout Europe, the people’s representatives haven’t realised that poker is not only an enjoyable and largely harmless activity, but it can also fill government coffers as well. In a classic case of governments overstepping their bounds, they miss out on billions of dollars – in return for which they get to tell grown, free-thinking adults what they can and can’t do with their hard-earned money.
While the UK and USA are acting like their money will never run out, at least one country is starting to get smart: Bulgaria. Officials from that nation recently gathered to brainstorm how Bulgaria can incorporate gaming into its tourism strategy, and how to find a ‘middle ground’ on online gaming.
“Gambling tourism is a resource Bulgaria has not exploited. A national gambling development programme needs to be drawn up as part of the tourism industry,” said Deputy Finance Minister Atanas Kunchev. It’s not rocket science – you promote what you have, whether it’s climate, beaches, culture or gaming. With a possible recession looming and many governments drowning in red ink, as they say in poker: “Don’t leave money on the table.”
Around the felt, that means don’t miss bets that you would have won. In government, it means don’t miss out on revenue that you could easily have had. And in the UK, that should mean giving people what they want. You don’t put a ridiculous 15 percent tax on poker websites, because no one will locate here. Thus, you get zip. A light tax would have brought job-creating websites here to be regulated and taxed. The UIGEA in the U.S. is the same type of mistake. Despite running a huge deficit, the Bush Administration is fighting online gaming in a big way.
Nothing these governments did stopped people from gaming on the Internet – all they did was miss out on billions in tax revenue that could have been used for the common good. And you can add the recent nixing of the ‘super casino’ to this list of mistakes.
There are fewer and fewer well-paying jobs around these days. We don’t need governments to protect us morally. We can do that ourselves, thank you. What we need governments to do is help protect us financially. And you don’t do that by leaving money on the table.
It’s all about Poker
http://www.pokerproeurope.co.uk
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Fudyann   Netherlands. May 21 2009 14:09. Posts 704 | | |
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luddite   United States. May 21 2009 14:17. Posts 398 | | |
Honestly, poker is probably bad for a country, overall. I mean, yeah the government can make some tax money off of it, but so many hours are spent doing nothing but playing poker. If people used that time to work a normal job instead, they'd actually be producing stuff and growing the economy, which would give a lot more tax money to the government. |
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Kapol   Poland. May 21 2009 15:01. Posts 4696 | | |
| On May 21 2009 13:17 luddite wrote:
Honestly, poker is probably bad for a country, overall. I mean, yeah the government can make some tax money off of it, but so many hours are spent doing nothing but playing poker. If people used that time to work a normal job instead, they'd actually be producing stuff and growing the economy, which would give a lot more tax money to the government. |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. May 21 2009 15:51. Posts 15163 | | |
| On May 21 2009 14:01 Kapol wrote:
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On May 21 2009 13:17 luddite wrote:
Honestly, poker is probably bad for a country, overall. I mean, yeah the government can make some tax money off of it, but so many hours are spent doing nothing but playing poker. If people used that time to work a normal job instead, they'd actually be producing stuff and growing the economy, which would give a lot more tax money to the government. |
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Why would he be retarded? Don't you think that if Humans didn't have ancient desires for having role models, adrenaline and impersonation than the society as a whole would be much more productive?
No Sports, Arts, Gambling, retarded celebrities and other non-productive activities would make the productive capabilities so much higher (Although the said desires are in fact inseparable from humans as they make us human )
And as to the OP, Government in democratic countries are not there to Maximise Economic Utility, they are there to gain popularity and get re-elected |
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TheTank   United States. May 21 2009 16:56. Posts 830 | | |
| On May 21 2009 14:51 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
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And as to the OP, Government in democratic countries are not there to Maximise Economic Utility, they are there to gain popularity and get re-elected |
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sigh...its like they are throwing money out of a helicopter and i dont have any hands...so i just break even. | |
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luddite   United States. May 21 2009 17:37. Posts 398 | | |
| On May 21 2009 14:01 Kapol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 13:17 luddite wrote:
Honestly, poker is probably bad for a country, overall. I mean, yeah the government can make some tax money off of it, but so many hours are spent doing nothing but playing poker. If people used that time to work a normal job instead, they'd actually be producing stuff and growing the economy, which would give a lot more tax money to the government. |
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no, i just understand basic economics. Apparently you don't, because you spent all your time playing poker instead. |
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Fudyann   Netherlands. May 21 2009 17:58. Posts 704 | | |
One might reasonably argue that it would be good for the country if we did something more productive than poker. However, I would be most happy if everyone could just do what he likes, whether luddite thinks that is productive or not. In that sense, I think poker is good for the country, because it is making a lot of people very happy. You cannot base an opinion on this on "basic economics". This is an idealistic opinion along similar lines to the egalitarianism versus diversity debate.
Using the amount of tax money that goes to the government as a measure of how good something is for the country is not basic economics either. It is, in fact, retarded.
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Elite00   United States. May 21 2009 18:15. Posts 683 | | |
| On May 21 2009 16:37 luddite wrote:
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On May 21 2009 14:01 Kapol wrote:
| On May 21 2009 13:17 luddite wrote:
Honestly, poker is probably bad for a country, overall. I mean, yeah the government can make some tax money off of it, but so many hours are spent doing nothing but playing poker. If people used that time to work a normal job instead, they'd actually be producing stuff and growing the economy, which would give a lot more tax money to the government. |
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no, i just understand basic economics. Apparently you don't, because you spent all your time playing poker instead. |
well your original post was funny because by looking at poker from that point of view would mean that any kind of entertainment (watching tv, videogames, sports, etc.) is wasteful and that time could be spent growing the economy.
SO STOP POSTING ON THE INTERNET AND GO PLANT SOME CROPS |
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Fudyann   Netherlands. May 21 2009 18:20. Posts 704 | | |
Well, you can still object to making money by playing poker, because that removes a natural incentive for you to be productive. Play money poker for entertainment would eventually force you to "get a real job."
New law: 100% tax on any non-productive activity. Anyone in favor? |
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angryfishes   Australia. May 21 2009 20:32. Posts 410 | | |
anyway If poker is ever taxed, they should add back the rake paid before calculating the tax payable amount |
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luddite   United States. May 21 2009 20:41. Posts 398 | | |
| On May 21 2009 16:58 Fudyann wrote:
One might reasonably argue that it would be good for the country if we did something more productive than poker. However, I would be most happy if everyone could just do what he likes, whether luddite thinks that is productive or not. In that sense, I think poker is good for the country, because it is making a lot of people very happy. You cannot base an opinion on this on "basic economics". This is an idealistic opinion along similar lines to the egalitarianism versus diversity debate.
Using the amount of tax money that goes to the government as a measure of how good something is for the country is not basic economics either. It is, in fact, retarded.
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Not saying it should be banned. I agree, it's fun and should be allowed. I'm just saying that it will never be a revenue source for a country (unless you're talking about a small tourist country like monaco). The article in the OP was saying that Bulgaria's government was hoping it would provide a stream of revenue for the country, and that's impossible. |
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