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Kilay   Netherlands. Jun 04 2009 12:15. Posts 1960 | | |
So I've been running break-even for my last 20k hands or so and been complaining and feeling miserable overall (got some RL problems at home as well and poker ain't helping). But this week I've been talking to good old KTD and I really need to turn my mindset around and use all my energy for good things as much as I can so I decided to post some hands and try and plug some leaks with help from people around here.
Hand 1:
This hand was against somebody playing 4/4 over 30 hands. Before this point he didn't 3-bet yet, neither did he enter a pot postflop so I don't have any stats on that. Basically, because he seemed nittish and I opened UTG I think his range is AA-QQ and some JJ and AK. At the flop c-bet everything is still possible but on turn I think JJ and AK is out of the question and I am mostly wondering if he still fires QQ or if it's just AA-KK. Also, is my range at any point to optimistic (unlikely) or pessimistic ??
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Hand 2:
I thought this was reasonably standard (although maybe thinnish) but just checking. Sample size is smallish because it's just the 2nd orbit but this is already the 3td time he does this in 10 hands. If you need numbers, he is playing 80/40 and obviously 100% 3-bet.
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Hand 3:
This guy is playing 81/13 over 20 hands and generally has shown that he doesn't like folding so far. He seems reasonably aggro so far but ofcourse the sample size is really small.
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Hand 4:
Villain on this hand has been playing around 76/57 and seems extremelly aggro so far and doesn't generally fold, sample size is only 25 hands though. Thing I am mostly worried about here is his range. He can have both a worse and a better hand. Most likely either a flush or a 2-pair combination imo. Now I was wondering if a guy like this would insta-shove over my big raise on the turn with this same range or can we narrow it down more ??
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Hand 5:
Villain in this hand is pretty nitty preflop but doesn't like folding and gets pretty aggro postflop from what I've seen so far. Playing 14/7 with 40 AFreq and hasn't folded to a c-bet yet in the 3 pots he has faced on. Basically I think the turn either gives him 2-pair or a draw most of the time. Even if he has like 2-pair or in the worst case scenario QJ I obviously still have equity. Thought anyone ?? Also wondering if people prefer shoving on the turn instead of the route I took or maybe even prefer a fold somewhere in the hand?
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So, those are all the hands I was hoping to get some help with. All thoughts on all the hands are appreciated.
I hope you all run good for the rest of the month (including me, would be nice for a change) and thank you for the help on the hands.
Kilay
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rgfdxm   United States. Jun 04 2009 12:37. Posts 1514 | | |
My opinions:
Hand 1: 4bet and try to get this in preflop. This is 6max and 4/4 or no, 30 hands is nowhere near enough to give him credit for AA. Especially since AK is in his range you need to get as much money in preflop as possible. Once he 3bets you, the money is going in, period.
Hand 2: obviously fine against a villain that spewy.
Hand 3: once again, top pair against a very loose, shortstacked villain -> money must go in. The only thing I would do differently is raise more preflop, you have a good hand and there's a dude playing 81% of his hands.
Hand 4: gotta call. Sucks if he has hearts but again, against a villain this loose and aggro you have to get it in.
Hand 5: MUST raise more preflop, there are two limpers. With the read provided that he doesn't like to give up postflop, I'd 3bet/get it in on the turn here. Note that getting it in on the turn is waaaay better if we had raised more preflop. |
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Sicks Macks   United States. Jun 04 2009 12:40. Posts 3929 | | |
Hand 1 is perfectly fine.
Hand 2 is close, sometimes muck preflop without reads or history. If he does this with any frequency it's an insta snap.
Hand 3 is fine if he's aggro, it's not if he's not.
Hand 4 is really close but I often muck because it's mw unless he really is a bluffer (because you rep hearts well)
Hand 5 is probably a fold.
Just in general I should mention that you've described villains in every spot you want to call as aggro. I mean I haven't played 25 in a long time, but there weren't nearly this many players who bluffed scare cards or multi-barreled. If you're confident in your reads, then that's fine, but the players you describe didn't exist at nl25. Make sure you're not creating reads to justify being a station (It's a natural tendency to think of hands he could be bluffing with this when you really want to call and then work backwards, I do this too). |
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Kilay   Netherlands. Jun 04 2009 13:03. Posts 1960 | | |
| On June 04 2009 11:40 Sicks Macks wrote:
Hand 1 is perfectly fine.
Hand 2 is close, sometimes muck preflop without reads or history. If he does this with any frequency it's an insta snap.
Hand 3 is fine if he's aggro, it's not if he's not.
Hand 4 is really close but I often muck because it's mw unless he really is a bluffer (because you rep hearts well)
Hand 5 is probably a fold.
Just in general I should mention that you've described villains in every spot you want to call as aggro. I mean I haven't played 25 in a long time, but there weren't nearly this many players who bluffed scare cards or multi-barreled. If you're confident in your reads, then that's fine, but the players you describe didn't exist at nl25. Make sure you're not creating reads to justify being a station (It's a natural tendency to think of hands he could be bluffing with this when you really want to call and then work backwards, I do this too). |
Ty especially for the last part of the post. I have been maybe a little on the paranoid side lately and it hasn't done my game a whole lot of good. I am been trying to cut it down a little again. The last hand I posted, the guy was aggro but only over like 3 hands he took postflop so that doesn't say a whole lot. I was also wondering about hand 4 because of the same thing. Even if he is so loose and everything, I am not completely sure if he's shoving 2 pair or pair + draw or whatever. Still not completely sure after the hand even. |
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egood   United States. Jun 05 2009 00:09. Posts 1883 | | |
hand 1 is just get it in pf
hand 2 is fine.
hand 3 is a fold: flop call, turn raise is almost always the nuts unless otherwise noted.
hand 4 bet the flop ffs. this is really close tho, i probably muck.
hand 5 calling turn is fine for implied odds since you'll stack his straight, but river is a fold.
most fish that are aggro will either raise your flop c-bets with air, or float in order to bluff a street you check to them on. They usually wont raise turn barrels with air (i've never seen it personally).
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