would appreciate any comments...

been playing my super lag (raising all pp, AJ+, KQ all in position if possible)

i dont consider this super lag at all. this is pretty standard.

Sick lag style

3-betting 22-99 as a standard is absolutley horrible, most lags don't 3-bet these hands as a default. you are losing SOO much value by doing this

get this LAG/TAG crap out of your head. just play poker. 3betting some of those hands is good against some opponents and not good vs others. you shouldnt really have a 'standard' to take with any hand.

similarly 3-betting AJ/KQ as a default is preety bad, poker is a relative game, you do this against some players, not against all..

the only hands that you SHOULD be 3-betting as a standard is QQ+/AK, everthing else is relative.
trying to simiplify poker into a formula is not gonna be profitable. good players are always thinking about their plays and why they may or may not be good

On June 22 2009 14:18 TalentedTom wrote: the only hands that you SHOULD be 3-betting as a standard is QQ+/AK, everthing else is relative. trying to simiplify poker into a formula is not gonna be profitable. good players are always thinking about their plays and why they may or may not be good

Is 3betting A/K out of the blinds that wise vs a station? You come up with air your involved in an inflated pot OOP and the station is going to peel flop for sure probably turn? I have a real hard time in this situation, my thought process is that calling here vs a station is better because your hand is going to be very under-repped and you're going to get your value regardless because they will be calling. Obviously this is probably not optimal, however, I would love your insight on this because I'm sure it's better overall then my own.

Jolin and TTom both make really excellent points. (herosengage was classic herosengage)

I guess i just want to add what my thought process was for 3 betting so light.

After playing so often, and pretty much everyone folding pretty much everything when i 3 bet with AK AA KK QQ it just seemed like i could 3 bet a lot more hands and they would fold. I guess i wanted to instigate change and force people to adapt to me. Calling me lighter etc. Or suffer playing extremely nitty vs me which is ok too. I still feel like they fold 85% of the time when i 3 bet so i feel like i'm picking alot of open raises and people either completely lock down and play premium hands are start to limp call more often. And so often they fold to c bets on flop. pp 22-99 i mean it's so easy to get out played if they have position i don't even mind 3 betting and taking the pot down pf same with AJ.

But so far the consensus seems that my lag style is pretty retarded. Although i'm not absolutely convinced yet i do acknowledge that most of you are more experienced than i am and would love to chat/talk about it and really discuss why it is so faulty.

But i guess for now i'll heed your advice and tighten up and maybe with some more time i can figure out the flaws in my lag style play.

Once again thank you all who even bothered to comment i really do appreciate any and all comments.

what tables are u playing at? at 25nl i had people calling 3-bets with hands like 63 suited and shit lol. Thats why I pretty much polarized my 3betting range at that level, no need to balance when people are capable of calling with garbage.

3betting pockets sucks cause it has tons of value and flatting will allow you to win more money in the long run

it may be slightly +ev because some people fold so much, but not as +ev as it would be if you had flatted instead

like i said, it's SO much better to 3bet trash instead if you want to pick up the pot right there because calling, as opposed to 3betting, will be unprofitable, unlike your pocket pairs.

yes you can pick up the pot really often preflop by 3betting. since thats the case, you should be 3betting some of your garbage hands. 3betting hands like Axs is good because with your A you can suckout on some big pairs and you can flop nut flush draws, etc. also you wont get into a massive reverse implied odds situation bcuz you know not to go crazy on A high flops with something like A3s.

3betting a hand like AJo every single time isnt good though bcuz its a marginal strength hand. vs some opponents, you arent particularly happy on Axx and Jxx flops in 3b pots bcuz you know their 3b calling range is pretty tight. and if you arent happy to flop TPTK, why are you 3betting it? instead you should flat it pf so your hand continues to be good against their range.

for the same reason, its not good to 3b KQ every time against tight opponents if you know they wont call with worse bcuz youre going to get dominated by AK/AQ.

and since these opponents are folding so often to 3bets, you can just 3bet any two cards in some spots with the sole purpose of taking the pot down preflop. if they call, you can then get away from your hand pretty easily postflop bcuz you wont be in marginal spots such as with KQ on Qxx.

thank you jolin. much <3