sometimes I own ;)

PokerStars Game #30769558494: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2009/07/22 22:21:08 ET
Table Kniertje 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($439.50 in chips)
Seat 2: RJMDREAMER ($141.15 in chips)
RJMDREAMER: posts small blind $0.50
Hero: posts big blind $1

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
RJMDREAMER: raises $3 to $4
Hero: raises $12 to $16
RJMDREAMER: calls $12

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $32.00)

   
Hero: bets $25
RJMDREAMER: calls $25

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $82.00)

   
Hero: checks
RJMDREAMER: bets $100.15 and is all-in
Hero said, "i have aq"
Hero said, "btw"
Hero said, "if 9 easy call"
Hero said, "nh i guess but i have to call"
Hero: calls $100.15

River (Pot : $282.30)

   

Showdown
Hero: shows (a flush, Ace high)
RJMDREAMER: mucks hand
Hero collected $281.80 from pot

Summary
Total pot $282.30 | Rake $0.50
Board  
Seat 1: Hero (big blind) showed and won ($281.80) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: RJMDREAMER (button) (small blind) mucked

0 votes

If he has a 9 it's an easy fold

I meant, if I had a 9 in that chatbox, but I was typing fast to see his response.
Cause it was obvious to me he didn't have deuce and he was bluffing with low PP maybe 8 + all draws + air.

wtf just bet turn

On July 23 2009 00:28 PanoRaMa wrote: wtf just bet turn

shove>c/f>c/c

should be

unless a sick read that this guy just bluffs like a COMPLETE maniac then you do some sort of soul read value bluffcatch here but.. thats really low % of time ^_^

I don't agree. Obviously I had a read on his bet sizing as well, but even if I had pair of 9s I would have played exactly the same way. Shove is not good cause ure making him to fold all weak PP and bluffs and ure getting called when ure beat. Shove is really bad imho.
And his line was totally unlogical too (just because he was pot controlling if he had something + he never shoves with trips in this spot)

wait why on earth do you not want pps folding?

On July 23 2009 00:28 PanoRaMa wrote: wtf just bet turn

On July 23 2009 03:39 nlloser60 wrote: I don't agree. Obviously I had a read on his bet sizing as well, but even if I had pair of 9s I would have played exactly the same way. Shove is not good cause ure making him to fold all weak PP and bluffs and ure getting called when ure beat. Shove is really bad imho. And his line was totally unlogical too (just because he was pot controlling if he had something + he never shoves with trips in this spot)

LMFAO

yeah you own pal

the fact that you're even talking about the possibility of trips tells me you're really not thinking properly, that seriously represents like <1% of his range here man.

and that you seem to think that he "turns his hand into a bluff" when he has any pair 8's or lower a fair amount of the time?

the funny thing is, although he never does that, even if he did, you wouldn't want that. at this point, theres so much dead money in the pot that you want him to fold his low pairs, >>>>>>>>because if you get 80 free dollars, its much better than playing your whatever 30-35% equity at this point, because thats mostly a breakeven proposition with pot odds<<<<<<<<

obviously I want him to fold PPs, geez. My mistake. Take out PPs from that sentence. I wrote that after long night, since I live in Europe 22,00 PS time is around 8-9 in the morning in here and I started my session around 12,00 PS time which is evening in Europe

Anyway, why do you think he's shoving 8's or lower rockman255? It doesn't make sense at all, cause he's getting called only by better hands and like I said he was pot controlling when he had something all the time, take that into account too cause it's the most important thing.
His shoving range should be only 9s or better at that point but not at the turn cause the board is to drawy to just call the flop with that kind of hands, therefore it was like a clear bluff. The only thing I was worried about was that he made spontaneous bluff with low PP or even 8 for some reason, cause I tilted him.