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longple    Sweden. Aug 12 2009 19:49. Posts 4472
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ok, so that hand was played by a friend of mine today, its the final table with 8 players left in a 20€ buy in freezeout tourney.

Alot of bad players.

He thinks that the player who called him with TT is a bad player and he thinks that his callingrange here is 88+ and AT+

I DISAGREE.

HES DRIVING ME FUCKING NUTS. He thinks this is a very good play and he expects alot of foldequity.

CAN SOME1 PLZ BE ON MY SIDE??? hes pushing 13bb and giving the other guy OVER 2:1, almost 3:1 (the antes dosnt show in the hand history)

But the other guy has to call 30k to win 80k in the pot.

I dont think he is folding EVER here.

Can some1 back me up?

Do you think its a good play with 85 13bb deep on a final table like this?

I dont think so

he dosnt have any fold equity here right?

I would call myself with like, almost 100% of my range

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dreamtech   . Aug 12 2009 20:04. Posts 104

i think its bad, he can wait for a better spot to pull something like this and with better cards, 58o is just awful. then again im no expert


edzwoo   United States. Aug 12 2009 20:07. Posts 5911

Technically it depends on the prize structure, but yeah BB should never fold TT there. Not close.


longple    Sweden. Aug 12 2009 20:09. Posts 4472

its the cutoff who has TT =D


rockman255   Canada. Aug 12 2009 20:19. Posts 4471

its villain dependent, or did you mean specifically TT? yeah nobody ever folds tens in their life, but the actual shove is really depending on the opponent, alot of donks raisefold 3x late, although i would still probably wait for at least like.. Kx, Ax , 2 broadway or a pp before this sort of play at 13bbs.

but yeah, villains calling range is probably like any ace any pocket pair obviously and then hes going to level himself to call with things like TJ suited, QJs, QTs, etc cause its pretty=)

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remember87   Sweden. Aug 12 2009 21:34. Posts 521

I can agree that his callingrange is 88+ and AT+ but if he hasnt made much noice prior to this hand its likely his raising range should be close to this too. So, he doesnt have much FE at all.. I would just fold 85o..

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longple    Sweden. Aug 12 2009 21:50. Posts 4472

i would not fold J5s here


Achoo   Canada. Aug 12 2009 22:06. Posts 1454

lol your friend is retarded, villain is getting offered 2:1 on his call and your friend only has 12 bbs left its such an obvious resteal and he's gonna get called by any two cards

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