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piratematerial   Netherlands. Sep 01 2009 18:45. Posts 773
I almost went into insta-tilt when the villain who took 8 buyins off me yesterday looked me up and joined my table this evening. He is fucking looking for me. #)$&%@)&fucksake he is the fish here! I should be looking for him!! And so greedy.. is 8 buyins not enough??! you need to find me. Am i a fucking ATM?? wel guess again because he started stomping on me almost right away. Some hands i should say WP because he bluffs me off a big pot in some other spots he gets lucky, thats my overall feeling though that he is doing some things right and running hot but doing a lot of things wrong. Judge for yourself..

here i have 1010 and i 3bet, he calls and i flop an A, so that sucks. definetely since he like calling my 3bets with a variety of Ax yesterday i saw one as low as A4. he also likes floating in 3bet pots
on the other hand he folds a lot on A hi boards in 3bet pots so maybe
the river is just a fold?
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/738239

he was 3betting me a lot, and i didn't do this often since he is in the
habit of calling my 4bets quite often(not always but a lot) but today
he was really firing up the 3bet%, much higher then yesterday so i figured my bluff had more chance of success. i get some of my own
medicine. i really don't like his bluff though. first he has to invest
such a lot with a bad easily dominated hand to see a flop and then he
has to raise almost his stack to move me off a K hi flop. he probably did it because he thinks im not 4betting KQ (which im not ) to me this feels like he will lose a lot of money on this move longterm?
i mean im not 4betting him all the time. like this when it's a little deeper it's mostly with 1010+ and AK, AQ and then some Ax or Kx bluffs now and then.
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/738237

here is another annoying hand that shows you how annoying this guy can be. he was calling me a lot in 3bet pots and floating so i thought this
move on the turn was +EV and would definetely hellp me in future 3bet
pots. it might have helped but this time it backfired...
it did give me better insight in how he plays draws in 3bet pots though. confirmed he calls down.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/738236

a few hands later.. wtf im i supposed to do? you know something about his tendencies by now. do you barrel here? not c-bet? HELP!!
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/738235

then i got my break when his tendency to call down with draws backfires on him, when he makes his straight but i make the nuts.
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/738245

ofcourse there was some action in between but then i finished him off for today with this one. at last all those failed bluffs are good for something.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/738246

Here he quits me, gave me back 2 or 2.5 buyins i think. i can only hope he will give me another chance tomorrow or something. I feel that know i have looked so detailed into this match and have some better reads i have a solid edge.

p.s
thnx a lot for the comments on the hands. i can't believe nobody likes yeserday's 5c6c bluff though :S


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Edjon   Netherlands. Sep 01 2009 19:11. Posts 1579

tomorrow part 3?


Nadeem   Belgium. Sep 01 2009 19:18. Posts 448

Shouldn't u slow down with the 3bets and bluffs? Tighten up against guys like this!

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lvcjarrett   United States. Sep 01 2009 22:16. Posts 100

keep on tiltin'


ToT)MidiaN(    United Kingdom. Sep 03 2009 03:17. Posts 5070

The first hand is definitely a river fold, most of the legit flop floats got there on the turn, so all you really beat on the river is a pure float with no pair no draw that decided to check back the turn on a good bluff card. Seems kinda unlikely.

The KJ hand on 689 should just be check folded against a villain like this, considering his wide calling range against 3bets he's gonna have a pair, or some draw a LOT of the time on this board which you're not getting him off on the flop, and there's not that many good turn barrel cards. 2-T are all are fairly bad since they either change nothing, making it less likely a villain like this will fold any pair, or they likely improve his draws to straights or pair+draw or his pairs into 2 pairs or whatnot. J-A would be fairly good to barrel, but it's not a large portion of the deck and considering he isn't folding the flop all that much you should just give up on the flop.

Vs this villain you need to give up more in 3bet pots, cbet less particularly on coordinated boards like 689 where he is gonna be peeling a large amount of the time, and just widen your value 3bet and 4bet ranges pre, don't 3bet him with hands like 34s etc because he's calling too much pre and too much on the flop, you want to 3bet with hands that make top pairs so you can valuetown him.

I like the A6 4bet bluff+flop bluff vs many opponents, but your fold equity is so low vs this guy that you're probably better off not bluffing at all, and just widening your value range to include things like AJo ATs mid pocket pairs etc and hope to have him call with garbage or spazz 5bet shove his shit like Q9o.

I also despise your 5c6c bluff yesterday, just cbet/fold the flop, you have no real equity in the pot and he's unlikely bluffing enough for your play to work even close to enough of the time to make it profitable considering your lack of outs. I wouldn't mind it as much if you had something like Tx or Kx since you at least have a gutshot to back it up, but even then it's still not worth it, certainly isn't profitable with just a backdoor flush draw/backdoor 2pair/trips draw -_-

One day good. One day bad. And some days, even hopeLast edit: 03/09/2009 06:04

Fraser   Canada. Sep 03 2009 04:17. Posts 4605

only saw 2 hands but just wanted to say that I'd much rather 4bet KQ than a6 vs this guy and that your 4bet size is huge, and hes calling with Q9o anyway! which is great because you can valuetown him by 4betting AT+ KJ+ and 77+ and never 4bet bluffing (if hes doing stuff like this often)


 



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