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Big_Rob_48   United States. Sep 23 2009 22:30. Posts 3432
So poker has gone not awful, but definitely not what i wanted it to be. My winrate is like 1.6 pt bb, I want it to be around 2.5 at least (its hard for me to have a good winrate trying to play as much as I want to play). So I was looking at graphs and noticed that my red line is super bad. I know why too, back 18 months ago it was so easy to have a good idea when players were check raising light and 3 betting light. They did it on bad flop textures and it was pretty easy to know when to rebluff or call down.

Now, poker is so much harder. I dont know what to do. I dont even like playing anymore. I am done with poker as of next summer by the latest. I think for the time being I am going to try to 2 and 3 barrel more often with a different bet sizing line of 4xbb preflop, 8xbb flop, 22xbb turn, shove river. I think bigger bet sizing will get more folds by the 2nd barrel(at least at 200 nl).

Here are my red line graphs from 18 months ago and from present.










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terrybunny19240   United States. Sep 23 2009 22:33. Posts 13829

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i this 6m or fr 'n how many tablea?


Big_Rob_48   United States. Sep 23 2009 22:34. Posts 3432

this is 6 max, i was playing 9 tables for a while, now mostly 6 table to try to improve : /

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Loco   Canada. Sep 23 2009 23:36. Posts 20967

you play a lot...

just wondering how come you are playing 200 nl if you make 30k months?

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

Jamie217   Canada. Sep 23 2009 23:52. Posts 4351

[QUOTE]On September 23 2009 21:30 Big_Rob_48 wrote:

Now, poker is so much harder. I dont know what to do. I dont even like playing anymore. I am done with poker as of next summer by the latest. I think for the time being I am going to try to 2 and 3 barrel more often with a different bet sizing line of 4xbb preflop, 8xbb flop, 22xbb turn, shove river. I think bigger bet sizing will get more folds by the 2nd barrel(at least at 200 nl).



asking your coach about some of these ideas might not be a bad idea


Baalim   Mexico. Sep 24 2009 00:05. Posts 34262

it has nothing to do with betting bigger, you are simply playing straight standard uncreative easy to read poker so you will beat it by small win ratios.

I can coach you if you are interested PM me.

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FrEaK[S.sIR]   Canada. Sep 24 2009 00:13. Posts 1848

You play extremely passive to the point of being bad.

200nl definitely isn't hard


ggplz   Sweden. Sep 24 2009 01:43. Posts 16784

First graph is present right?

A coach can really help you, just pick a good experienced solid winner.

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anon   Lithuania. Sep 24 2009 03:03. Posts 5965

I have the same problem, i play straightforward poker without creative lines i beat the limit around 2bb/100, but i don't plan getting a coach, because after few hours i get tired and playing "creative" poker becomes very hard and mentally wearing. For now i am happy with what i make playing a lot and getting a good rake back. But as for the future, getting a coach is a must, because i am planning to get a job and i will only have few hours of poker a day, that's when i will try to play higher stakes but less hours and with autopilot off.
Basically if you want to be the limit and move up you have to cut tables to 6 or even less and play very concentrated+ thinking about every situation and that's when the creative lines will come.
Why will you quit poker? have you found a better way to make money?
gl

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lebowski   Greece. Sep 24 2009 08:04. Posts 9205


  On September 24 2009 02:03 anon wrote:
Why will you quit poker? have you found a better way to make money?
gl


this
also, I'm in the same boat, but you make it sound like there's no room for improvement

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

CrownRoyal   United States. Sep 24 2009 08:53. Posts 11385

firing more barrels is not the issue at hand.

WHAT IS THIS 

FrEaK[S.sIR]   Canada. Sep 24 2009 12:48. Posts 1848


  On September 24 2009 02:03 anon wrote:

Why will you quit poker? have you found a better way to make money?
gl




Because he doesn't enjoy it. Anybody who thinks that making money comes before enjoying the time you spend in life really needs some perspective.


 



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