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piratematerial   Netherlands. Nov 17 2009 08:43. Posts 773
such a weird match. this guy called EVERY 3 bet i made. EVERY ONE. and every single one i made for value. he almost never 3bet himself maybe like 2% or something. AND HE UTTERLY DESTROYED ME. it was like he was soulreading me or something.. took like $1300 off me. i got c/r on the flop, on the turn on the river. on the river it seemed to be for value everytime. but on the turn and the flop it was quite balanced i guess. i tried to rebluff him, to slowplay, to play fast to make him play for floating, to bluff. i really tried my hardest but he was raising when i had nothing, raising when he had me beat and folding when i had a nutlike hand.
here is his tableratings. appears to be a somewhat skilled amateur player. who can stand his ground on 1/2 HU nl but if a guy like that owns me so fucking hard really i have no place there.

http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/kouzapas1978


example of ownage:

Submitted by : piratematerial

okerStars Game #35472666459: Holdem No Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2009/11/17 8:30:53 ET
Table Desagneauxa 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: kouzapas1978 ($1343.60 in chips)
Seat 2: pokerhaasje ($281.50 in chips)
pokerhaasje: posts small blind $1
kouzapas1978: posts big blind $2

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to pokerhaasje 7h4s
pokerhaasje: raises $4 to $6
kouzapas1978: calls $4

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $12.00)

   Kh3dKc
kouzapas1978: checks
pokerhaasje: bets $8
kouzapas1978: calls $8

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $28.00)

   Kh3dKcKd
kouzapas1978: checks
pokerhaasje: bets $22
kouzapas1978: raises $30 to $52
pokerhaasje: calls $30

River (Pot : $132.00)

   Kh3dKcKdTs
kouzapas1978: checks
pokerhaasje: bets $82
kouzapas1978: calls $82

Showdown
pokerhaasje: shows 7h4s (three of a kind, Kings)
kouzapas1978: shows Ad9c (three of a kind, Kings - Ace kicker)
kouzapas1978 collected $295.50 from pot

Summary
Total pot $296 | Rake $0.50
Board  Kh3dKcKdTs
Seat 1: kouzapas1978 (big blind) showed Ad9c and won ($295.50) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 2: pokerhaasje (button) (small blind) showed 7h4s and lost with three of a kind, Kings



i just don't get it how the fuck he figured this out. he bluffs me on the turn (like i suspect he does quite some, but he also uses this for value with trips for example) so i float him to rebluff in position on the river and he fucking calls with A hi. nobody owns me so hard as to raise me on the turn to get more money in the pot to call me on the river with A hi. WTF...

my computer crashed so im playing without HM but i was single tabling and paying a lot of attention here are the reads i made during the match, in addition i had a lot of stuff in my head ofcourse:

u nl
raised na 3bet te callen een JKx flop naar 60
fold niet erg vaak op 3bets, float redelijk wat in 3bet pots
raised river met nutsy hand
called makkelijk 2 barrels met midpair
called 3bets met 107s etc , float een midpair 10 in 3bet pot, en met 78o
flat pp, zelfs qq
maakt veel c/r of raise bluffs denk ik o flop en turn ?
called flush draw op 223 flop en lead de turn waar hij hit, bet de river hee klein als de 4 flush hit en hij een medium 10hi flush heeft
called down met draws zelf nut draws
raised river met nuts
flat called qq maar 3bet k7o, en checked dan een K hi dry flop down
minraised de flop soms om te kijken waar hij staat?
c/r K hi drawy flop met total air
called zelfs 73s vs een 3bet en float een megadraw ipv raise
op een xxz flop als de flop wordt doorgechecked c/r hij Qz op de turn
op lage rag flops fold hij meestal vs de cbet in een 3et pot


anyway, computer crashed. no HM. forced to play on a laptop, which i dislike, bankroll destroyed last week. dropped another $1300 right now. i'm forced to move down. i was splitting action already between 100nl and 200nl but now im really forced. sucks so much.

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Oly   United Kingdom. Nov 17 2009 08:57. Posts 3585

Looks to me like he could be a good live player. These kinds of players make excellent reads and act upon them accordingly, but their theory can be a little off from how an internet player sees it. This can also mean that you have to change the way you read their hands. Also his preflop play corresponds to that type imo.

Researchers used brain scans to show that when straight men looked at pictures of women in bikinis, areas of the brain that normally light up in anticipation of using tools, like spanners and screwdrivers, were activated.Last edit: 17/11/2009 08:58

wolfheart   Estonia. Nov 17 2009 08:59. Posts 7592

wtf .. how ? first he raises turn because his Ace high might be good and 9 also... if u have Big pair u raise, if small poket pair u call and most like check river.. then T comes ..so what u wanna rephere that u bet call with AT? its so unlikely ..mostly u have air on river

if u had AQ,AJ,small poket what u wanna could call turn u check with those. He just lets you to hang yourself. Give up on turn.. he wont fold almost no river if he has pocket or ace high.

Never give up.Last edit: 17/11/2009 09:04

tutz   Brasil. Nov 17 2009 09:03. Posts 2140


  On November 17 2009 07:59 wolfheart wrote:
wtf .. how ? first he raises turn because his Ace high might be good and 9 also... if u have Big pair u raise, if small poket pair u call and most like check river.. then T comes ..so what u wanna rephere that u bet call with AT? its so unlikely ..mostly u have air on river


piratematerial   Netherlands. Nov 17 2009 09:47. Posts 773

for wolfhearth and tutz. if his A hi might be good, he should call down. turn and river. to keep me in there.

yeah a big pair i might be raising on the turn but not necessarily i would want to keep him bluffing. i float to rep a pair bigger then 3's, but yes usually a 88, 99, type of hand, that i dont reraise on the turn because there is a possibility he has a bigger pair, but on the river feel like i can extract some value from a most likely weaker pair or the 3 ofcourse im not repping AT here. its very unlikely i would bet a A hi on the river. the T didnt really come into it.

ofcourse he doesnt fold if he has a pocket on the river. but i did expect him to fold A hi.



staxxx   Bulgaria. Nov 17 2009 11:50. Posts 652

actually he played this hand very good, the K turn is very bad card for barreling and he knew you either bluff or have poket pair. He almost minraises and maybe expected to be reraised if you had like TT+, and flat called if you have small pair/air. Then he checks river expecting you to check back low full houses and bet air or Tx/JJ/TT which you have very rarely. Not a bad call.
Calling every 3bet you make is something you can exploit but its also very tilting which maybe was the case.
Just go rape 100nl

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auffenpuffer   Finland. Nov 18 2009 14:20. Posts 1429

well he played it really well if he seriously assumed that piratematerial will be callin with air to be able to bluff on river. Now I agree with pirate that he probably did not think it like that. Instead it looks like "hee hee I raiz... oh he called... now he bets... well maybe I call" kind of thought process.


lazymej   Canada. Nov 18 2009 14:37. Posts 2897

Probably a superuser


 



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