lol leaking dollars :(

This is bad, how many tables do you play?

And having redline above blue is bad too, I found it sustainable with average NL25 tables to have redline exactly at 0 (but downward sloping red line seems to work really good for NL25 regs).


Cut tables, implement exploitable bet sizing and try to get more dead money (large bluffs are obv. not an answer)

24 tables for 1/3 (beginning) and the rest is 2-8 tables, mostly 4.

I can't really think of any other changes that I made to my style other than that I stopped my maniacal 3betting habits and I guess tightened up a little bit.
Funny how the red line seems to gradually become worse and worse the more I play.

I was actually supposed to switch to PLO but kinda got carried away (again), I can't really decide if I should try and fix my leaks at nl first or just switch and forget about nl.

Lol you are equally good at both?

Gtfo from NL man, no question

red line doesnt mean shit - you might be just folding hands instead of calling when your beat at showdown
just keep playing as long as you winning it should not matter

On November 17 2009 14:31 newbie.cjb wrote: red line doesnt mean shit - you might be just folding hands instead of calling when your beat at showdown just keep playing as long as you winning it should not matter

I keep seeing people say this and I have to say I disagree.

A severe downward sloping red line DOES mean something and it DOES matter since it affects your winrate. Of course certain styles will cause you to have this type of graph (i.e. nitty, weak-tight, spewy) but it also indicates that you have some leaks.

Any person who is serious about playing should try and plug those leaks. Saying as long as you're winning it should not matter is the same as saying if you win by autopiloting, keep doing it, there's no difference. There is a difference between 0.5ptbb/100 and 2.5ptbb/100.

Fixing that red line will bring up your winrate, as long as you don't become so obsessed about making it positive that you mess up your blue line.

What other people said:
capitalize on good opportunities to pick up dead money
carefully pick your pots where you want to put in money which will be EV+ - I had a huge problem with this and sometimes still do. I'll try to steal the pot with trashy hands when my opponent is not likely to fold, resulting in you putting money in and having to c/f later.
control spew
etc

my butt is leaky? is this bad?

You could just be going through a phase where you keep running into the top of people's ranges when you c bet/2/3 barrel.

Sometimes you're playing a lot of fish that call down with anything so of course your red line is going to suffer if you play with a lot of stations in your blinds or whatever.

Just focus on your tables and opponents and everything will follow through.

If you're red line is not back within atleast 1/4 of your win at showdown after 100K hands or something then you can start worrying.