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Xanthos   . Dec 03 2009 02:08. Posts 110
I know what the red line is, but the recent talks about and graphs I have seen makes me think... Do I have a minor leak in my game, well there are many leaks thats for sure, but specifically related to this, over the long run going lower and lower.

Here is what I think I do ok:
CBET
2nd and maybe 3 barrel... not as often 3rd barrel in 50nl
I dont call 3bets with sooooted cards.
4 bet bluff--rarely only with reads against > 10% 3bet people.

Anyways some input would be nice



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edzwoo   United States. Dec 03 2009 02:13. Posts 5911

Play more hands. Every hand you play you fight for the blinds. By default your redline is going to tank because of the blinds.

When my VPIP was like 30/26 I had a sick redline and I didn't even double barrel and stuff (blue line suffered of course so it wasn't worth it).


Babs   Australia. Dec 03 2009 02:15. Posts 1178

There is no problem with your red line going down, just focus on the green mate.

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake - Napolean Bonaparte 

edzwoo   United States. Dec 03 2009 02:20. Posts 5911


  On December 03 2009 01:15 Babs wrote:
There is no problem with your red line going down, just focus on the green mate.



This too


lazymej   Canada. Dec 03 2009 02:53. Posts 2897

i think your red line will improve if you get stronger at postflop play. i also have this problem and it's super annoying.


LikeASet   United States. Dec 03 2009 03:40. Posts 2113

nothing wrong with downsloping redline, just make sure you have efficient resteals and squeezes preflop. Also make sure you aren't opening too wide at tough tables and calling too many 3 and 4bets out of position. Over time your red line will slope less if not stay level.
My red line is bad but i've trying to mass a lot to get nova -_-

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salutary   Australia. Dec 03 2009 03:53. Posts 362

red line goes up if you find effective spots to steal pots postflop, bluff raises and floats etc


4Kingell   United Kingdom. Dec 03 2009 03:59. Posts 1453

Also from recent DC vid your red line goes up if you value bet thinner - something many people don't do at lower stakes (me for sure...). Think about it if rivers go check check, your red line is unaffected but your blue line is, if you value bet and they call, your blue line is affected and your red line unaffected, if they fold your blue line is unaffected and your red line goes up.

If you are playing a bunch of calling stations then your red line will obviously tend to go down more too.

If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles. Sun Tzu  

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Dec 03 2009 04:01. Posts 15163

vbet more

93% Sure!  

CT_rider   United States. Dec 03 2009 04:36. Posts 134

all the meantime while you have to keep your showdown hands ere they r otherwise it turns to this


phexac   United States. Dec 03 2009 05:37. Posts 2563

Changing things about your game specifically to make your redline a certain shape is the wrong approach. Just evaluate your game and see where you are missing spots to 3bet against a steal, float and take away pot, bluff/semi-bluff, 4bet versus steal, defend your blind. In order to do this you need to look at your opponents, identify their tendencies and play back at them in a manner that capitalizes on those tendencies. For example, does a guy raise 75%+ when first-in on the button. Well, he's a good person to defend your blind against. Does someone open light in most positions and then give up after 1 barrel? He's a good person to float and take pot away later. As you get better at adjusting to the tendencies of your opponents, you winrate will go up as well as your red and blue lines. That will happen naturally as a result of changes to your game, not because you are trying to change your redline.

Nitting it up since 2006 

piratematerial   Netherlands. Dec 03 2009 06:49. Posts 773

if you want a really good red line, just call down with all your SUPERWEAK HANDS, like 27-109 that missed. oh and if you are vbetting and get raised and think you are beat? take it to showdown...

your redline will be awesome!

oh and bluff a LOT but if he raises you and you think you are beat, take it to showdown. otherwise this will add to your non-showdown losses and you want to avoid that.


env0y_nl   Netherlands. Dec 15 2009 21:12. Posts 244

that first graph is a hell of a dedicated graph -.-

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