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superfashion   United States. Jan 22 2010 13:06. Posts 918
Submitted by : superfashion

PokerStars Game #38555121948: Holdem No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/01/22 12:04:54 CT [2010/01/22 13:04:54 ET]
Table Dolios IX 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: VM.VINOMANIA ($4.97 in chips)
Seat 2: hollythew00d ($5.45 in chips)
Seat 3: Totosha16 ($6 in chips)
Seat 4: superfash ($5.88 in chips)
Seat 6: bgApache ($5.31 in chips)
superfash: posts small blind $0.02
JWT1: is sitting out
bgApache: posts big blind $0.05

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to superfash AsJs
VM.VINOMANIA: folds
hollythew00d: folds
Totosha16: raises $0.10 to $0.15
superfash: calls $0.13
bgApache: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $0.35)

   9cQsTs
superfash: checks
Totosha16: bets $0.15
superfash: raises $0.15 to $0.30
Totosha16: calls $0.15

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $0.95)

   9cQsTs6d
superfash: checks
Totosha16: checks

River (Pot : $0.95)

   9cQsTs6d5s
superfash: bets $0.40
Totosha16: calls $0.40

Showdown
superfash: shows AsJs (a flush, Ace high)
Totosha16: mucks hand
superfash collected $1.70 from pot

Summary
Total pot $1.75 | Rake $0.05
Board  9cQsTs6d5s
Seat 1: VM.VINOMANIA folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: hollythew00d folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: Totosha16 (button) mucked TdAd
Seat 4: superfash (small blind) showed AsJs and won ($1.70) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: bgApache (big blind) folded before Flop



My idea on the flop was that I had both the nut flush draw and a straight draw, but I probably should've fired the turn and bet bigger on the river?

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shoving here as a bluff at 50NL is like explaning calcalus to a 6 month old cat wtf are you thinking - TalentedTom 

Sicks Macks   United States. Jan 22 2010 13:11. Posts 3929

Much bigger raise on the flop, like to 50c or so, fire turn, obv bigger on river when you hit.

Mr. Will Throwit 

Spicy   United States. Jan 22 2010 13:11. Posts 1027

And what exactly do you manage to accomplish with the check minraise?
Come up with a plan before you decide to do something like this on the flop from oop.
You don't wanna c/r and then be like "fuck he called what do I do on the turn I guess I'll shut down"
Nothing in the hand makes any sense at all, so honestly when you get to the river theres no point in making a standard bet
You already fucked up your turn play, I would just shove river and expect to get called down by any queen/2pair/87 whatever

 Last edit: 22/01/2010 13:15

superfashion   United States. Jan 22 2010 13:21. Posts 918

Thanks for the criticism. My "plan" was to not raise so much on the flop so as to scare him away because he'd folded to a few big raises before. I know the check on the turn was bad, but then I wasn't sure how much value I could get on the river so that was my logic for the small bet.

shoving here as a bluff at 50NL is like explaning calcalus to a 6 month old cat wtf are you thinking - TalentedTom 

Sicks Macks   United States. Jan 22 2010 13:23. Posts 3929


  On January 22 2010 12:21 superfashion wrote:
Thanks for the criticism. My "plan" was to not raise so much on the flop so as to scare him away because he'd folded to a few big raises before.

You very much want him to fold hands like 22-88, and the exact hand he has.

Mr. Will Throwit 

Spicy   United States. Jan 22 2010 13:42. Posts 1027


  On January 22 2010 12:21 superfashion wrote:
Thanks for the criticism. My "plan" was to not raise so much on the flop so as to scare him away because he'd folded to a few big raises before. I know the check on the turn was bad, but then I wasn't sure how much value I could get on the river so that was my logic for the small bet.



You're oop and his turn check back pretty much widens his range for the river so at this point you're not SUPPOSED to know how much value you can get (therefore your logic for the small bet is useless)
So you might as well go for huge value because there's still tons he can pay off with on this board including worse flushes/straights that got there
Not to mention the small % of the time where terribad players just make curiosity calls when you shove

 Last edit: 22/01/2010 13:44

bonzocuellar   Mexico. Jan 22 2010 13:44. Posts 203

lol wtf am i reading? raise on flop to about 60c or so, dont check after a check raise, balls in on river, you should be playing abc poker on micros, no fancy plays!

http://bonzocuellar.blogspot.com 

Etherone   Canada. Jan 22 2010 16:01. Posts 753


  On January 22 2010 12:44 bonzocuellar wrote:
lol wtf am i reading? raise on flop to about 60c or so, dont check after a check raise, balls in on river, you should be playing abc poker on micros, no fancy plays!



i dont think that's fancy play syndrome, i think he just had a brain fart.


 



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