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XDsCrazy   Canada. Jan 29 2010 08:35. Posts 64
I was up +16BI and everything was going decently, was not makin tons of money or crushing the NL10 limit but I felt like I was learning lot while making profit too so its a good combination.

Yesterday, after 3 days off poker, I really wanted to put some hands in, was fresh, focused and ready to go !

-13BI in 1 session. I lost all my month profit (well almost) in 1 session.

Good point ? yes there is one, no tilt, not even affected since their was nothing I could do really.

2x nut flush beat by a boat
2x top 2 pair got river str8
3x AA didnt hold while AI PF
even have a boat beat by quads !

you know a night where nothing goes your way

I kinda rewatch my HS and I dont feel bad about it really, yea their is some spot I could have played differently but I dont think it would have change the overall outcome of the night.

Like some ppl said thats poker and every player get that kind of night one day, so their is 2 options atm

Call it quit while raging, beating my kids off and throwing my PC throw the window !!!

Or just suck it out, keep learning and grind it back...

yea ill try option 2

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G-_-L 

YoungSKY   France. Jan 29 2010 09:11. Posts 37

You should probably think about choosing a stop loss limit. Losing 13BIs on one session is definitely too much imo. I would have stopped after the first 3 BIs. I need - at least - to rest a bit after such an horrible session. You want to be really sure that you're still playing your A game before coming back.

3 ways to play JJ but none is good... WTF! ;) 

Uptown   . Jan 29 2010 09:15. Posts 3557

hmm the fact that you were able to lose that much + get this many horrible beats in 1 day tells me that you're playing somewhere between 8-14 tables.

If this is the case, a lot of very respected players here (including many of your longtime friends) will advise you to cut down the # of tables and focus on improving.

I myself started out 12-16 tabling the microstakes and if you're willing to take my word for it, there's no better choice I've made than cutting down tables!

Half Pot! 

Mariuslol   Norway. Jan 29 2010 09:15. Posts 4742

Stop loss is really smart, it's so hard to notice subtle tilt. Stuff like, you're using a few seconds less on each decisions without even noticing it. Also, on the hands you lose with flush, there's a pair on the board, good idea to sit back, take deep breath, and use all the time you have before making decision, think through his line, what makes sense, what you put him on, and go for there. (Not saying it wasn't a cooler or something you could get away from.) Just saying tilt comes in many forms, and one is wanting to win back your losses. 3-5bi stop loss is great I think.

My 2 cents =]

Gl fighting xD (People in general suck ass at handling a loss like that, and you seem to be doing great.)


XDsCrazy   Canada. Jan 29 2010 09:28. Posts 64

I was 6 tabling so yea just a horrible session.

I agree that a paired board is rought when u got a flush but its hard to put a fish (someone who play 75/40 or 80/25) on a range of hand, no wait its easy he can have literraly everything.

I see those player push allin with 2 pair, sets, trips, K flush even top pair all day long so yea just a cooler I guess.

You guys really think about folding a nut flush to a 80/50 fish on a paired board ?

G-_-L 

whamm!   Albania. Jan 29 2010 09:49. Posts 11625

knowing when to quit when you're winning or losing is probably the most important skill i have yet to master up to now haha.
i think ill be winning a lot more and consistently if i knew exactly when to just call it a day when im up or down. if you dont go for SNE or stuff like that i think it should definitely be part of what a poker player should learn when just starting out.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jan 29 2010 10:25. Posts 9634

you r lying to urself
you should've quit at -5bi TOPS


Mariuslol   Norway. Jan 29 2010 10:46. Posts 4742


  On January 29 2010 08:28 XDsCrazy wrote:
I was 6 tabling so yea just a horrible session.

I agree that a paired board is rought when u got a flush but its hard to put a fish (someone who play 75/40 or 80/25) on a range of hand, no wait its easy he can have literraly everything.

I see those player push allin with 2 pair, sets, trips, K flush even top pair all day long so yea just a cooler I guess.

You guys really think about folding a nut flush to a 80/50 fish on a paired board ?



Yeah, I used to sum it up as a cooler before as well. But if you notice carefully, those guys comes in a few different forms, they aren't alike. Some of them can do these weird pot pot bluffs, some of them hardly EVER re raise you, if that one for instance was a guy who just calls, and then he raises, it's a fold.

Also a thing bout the timid ones who always call, if they do min re raise pre, it's AA KK, almost every time. First thing I try to notice is "cally or aggro or bluff" and i mark them as a weak player, with one of those on it, vs the bluffy aggro ones i make thin calls, vs the cally ones I make tough laydowns.

Hope any of that made sense lol


HaiVan   Bulgaria. Jan 29 2010 11:26. Posts 2083


  On January 29 2010 08:49 whamm! wrote:
knowing when to quit when you're winning or losing is probably the most important skill i have yet to master up to now haha.
i think ill be winning a lot more and consistently if i knew exactly when to just call it a day when im up or down. if you dont go for SNE or stuff like that i think it should definitely be part of what a poker player should learn when just starting out.



This is absolutely essential.

Poker chobo. 

Fayth    Canada. Jan 29 2010 12:58. Posts 10085

I often book winning days, I'm never like "oh i'm up and running good i shud keep playing"

and I'm a winning player afaik, I hardly quit when I'm down, but I know when I'm playing bad and thus shud quit a session and/or a player

Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy 

nvidiamouse   . Jan 29 2010 14:01. Posts 3


  beating my kids off


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player999   Brasil. Jan 29 2010 17:15. Posts 7978


  On January 29 2010 11:58 Fayth wrote:
I often book winning days, I'm never like "oh i'm up and running good i shud keep playing"

and I'm a winning player afaik, I hardly quit when I'm down, but I know when I'm playing bad and thus shud quit a session and/or a player



this, if youre a winner and arent tilted why stop

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

Uptown   . Jan 29 2010 19:49. Posts 3557

I instaquit if I feel like I really misplayed one hand.

But idk what I'd do if I'm convinced I plaed the hands fine but just got buttraped

Half Pot! 

XDsCrazy   Canada. Jan 29 2010 20:09. Posts 64

I see 10 coolers in my sessions where in 7 of them I was ahead when the money went in

anoother one the guy played it exactly like a flush where I had a set and he gave me odds to call the turn for a boat and I did boat on the river... guy had a set that turned into quads T_T

so yea 2 cooler out of them I was defenetly beat but like I said I had the nut flush in both hand where the guy was a 70/20 or so fish so can I really grant him credit for a boat on a paired board .... I dont know

G-_-L 

 



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