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hiems   United States. Apr 22 2010 22:58. Posts 2979 | | |
Its been 1 month without poker. Its sucked pretty hardcore. But I still gotta keep up the school grind so I'll remain poker free for the next month or so. I havn't played any poker in the past month and I have also avoided picking up any new books. Hasn't been easy! But I'm hanging in there.
Anyway I figured since my pokerstars ban just expired I might as well blog about an update of the past month.
Been thinking about various "Soft Skills" regarding poker that I want to implement.
I have been thinking about the game daily. And I have watched a couple of the HSP episodes and I randomly caught some poker on TV.
Anyway.
I wanted to write a bit about what I felt was the coolest discovery I had during this time.
Something that always stuck with me was the fact that Good players seem to have excellent memory when it comes to poker hands. That they can describe hands they played years ago in really vivid detail. The way they seem to describe their hands is usually much more detailed than that of a bad player"
I think I read it some time ago in Super System, or maybe just general poker articles. It seems just common knowledge that this is the case. Anyway I was reminded of this fact when I caught a video of BoostedJ describing to an interviewer about a wacky hand involving a misclick. The hand isnt quite important. But the detail in which he was able describe the hand was impressive to me.
So I began to think about this. "How is he able to so vividly recall his hand?"
Then I tried to recall the last hands I played. And if I could replay even one hand as vividly as Justin Smith had. And I realized that the only hand I could do this with was a hand where I had JJ on the button. I opened for 3x. The SB and BB called. The villain in question was the SB. Effective stacks were about 250 Big Blinds.
I had seen him flat his QQ preflop and take a check-call Check-fold line on an ace high flop earlier in the session. Anyway flop came QdJd8c. Blinds checked to me. I cbet about 3/4 of the pot. He insta shoved his 250 bb stack over.
Anyway the hand is super easy to remember. But I remembered it in decent detail. No other poker hand, could I just recollect from my memory as well as this one.
I then asked myself why this was the case...No one is going to figure this out but this hand is actually from one of my earlier blog posts. Its from a LIVE session I played with a couple of friends of mine.
I realized that the reason I could recollect this hand was because after the session I blogged about this particular hand and had to describe every detail about this hand by writing about it. And that was the reason why I was able to remember it so vividly.
If this is the case, then this miraculous "ability to remember" better than other people is not simply the function of god given talent. Rather, it might just be that "Naturals" just have a natural tendency to have certain natural behaviors that allow them to better remember than others. Maybe they discuss hands constantly with friends and tell them how the hand played out. Maybe some other factor. etc...
But the points to take are 1) Your ability to remember and describe hands better can be improved 2) Just posting hand histories don't do your review sessions justice. As the hand converter and hand history take away the learning you get by simply describing your own hand.
So If this is the case, than through work, you can improve your poker memory and the information you get by seeing poker hands play out in action.
Yeah so after that moment, I tried to apply the philosophy. I had two opportunities in the past month (like I said I havn't been playing poker).
The first was when the 25k Highrollers event at the Venetian randomly crawled up on ESPN2. Sweet! Poker. I had been so deprived...Anyway I decided to implement my discovery in action.
Whenever I used to watch poker on TV, I would just see the hand. And Id kinda be like "Okay that happened." And It just wouldnt be stimulating. Or maybe to better put it, the information of the events that transpired just didnt have a "First person feel" to it as it is relevant to me.
Anyway after each hand that was played I tried to mimic what I did on the JJ hand. I retold the story. Trying to capture details as vividly as possible. And really, I feel likes its a great exercise and habit to develop. For example there was a hand that daniel negreanu led out in a multiway pot with 56dd on a diamond board (Don't want to retell the hand)...But before I retold myself the hand I was like "Oh that just happened." But after I retold the hand to myself I was like "Oh wow. Daniel will lead out a pretty wide range on that board into four players." I mean...its not the most profound of discoveries. But its a great babystep in my development I felt.
SO...Yesterday night randomly my friends text me and we play a really small buy in sit and go tourney! Sweet! first time playing poker in a month!
BLAH. Anyway I was going to describe some of the realizations I had in this session//ask some questions. But THIS BLOG IS TOO LONG!! And will be DR almost certainly if I don't stop soon.
Anyway yeah. Posting a nice little update. Can't wait to be back at the tables.
-Also, requesting another 2 week ban from LP.
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hiems   United States. Apr 22 2010 23:22. Posts 2979 | | |
A thing I wanted to do was simply to re-narrate the hands I did play for the reasons mentioned. I'm going to try do keep doing this in my blog (Or maybe another medium) in the future. You don't have to read this. FWIW I probably played this bad!
Anyway there was on hand where it was folded to the small blind, who completed. I was in the BB and saw 85 off suit. The villain was calling a ton of preflop opens so I didnt feel there was great value in isolating. I was also at about 45 Big blinds, so I would have to commit a large portion of my stack should I choose to outplay him after the flop. So I decided to check. Flop was really dry. It came JT6 Rainbow. Anyway he decided to lead out for about 2/3 about the pot.
Villain had been involved in alot of pots from the small blind. And he had led out postflop from the SB abuot 5 times in the session. The first 4 times I believe he led out for value, sometimes into multiple opponents. Though he had been active postflop I didnt have a real reason to see he was getting out of line. But the previous time he did lead out he led out into 3 opponents on a KQx two toned board and showed a bluff. It seemed like he is growing restless as the game is getting a bit long. Anyway when he led out on this flop I felt that it was just so dry and at this point he would be bluffing alot. He had been continuation betting often during the session as well, and I feel like a continuation bet and a lead out from the SB HU on a dry board are somewhat correlated in terms of personality and thought process, so I decided to raise his bet. In hind sight, a float might have been a cheaper, lower variance option that is just as effective. Anyway I raised to about the size of the pot, a couple of big blinds less. My friend is a casual player doesnt really regard pot odds and definately didnt care about betsizing, so I just chose a leverage point that would get folds from him.
Anyway he decided to call. At that point I was really too happy. But I felt he could potentially be peeling with QJ, Mid pocket pairs, and maybe a T. So I did have some room to maneuver. Anyway the turn came an offsuit (I think) 7, giving me an open ended straight draw. I thought barreling one street would be really bad, since he isn't like to fold anything he called with on the flop. But I felt for some reason (probably because he was getting restless) that he might have peeled my flop raise pretty light. So after long thought I decided to bet an amount on the turn that I could shove river for about a Pot-Sized bet with...to get folds from his QJ hands and his middle pairs. I bet and he called. River came a 4, making me the straight. And he decided for some reason to spazz out and lead into me by shoving his stack on the river! Wtf?! Anyway of course I snap called and won. He showed a T9 or something. He said he was just calling to bluff me later or something as he was getting restless.
Anyway yeah I feel better writing this. TBH I want to write about so many more hands I played. I just feel after this narrative I remember this hand so much better. Its a great feeling. I hope to get really good at this skill and be able to recall hands during live sessions with ease, even the hands where I am not involved in.
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player999   Brasil. Apr 22 2010 23:47. Posts 7978 | | |
good thing you dont remember hands... it means the game isnt consuming you yet
i remember way more than i wish i did |
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hiems   United States. Apr 22 2010 23:49. Posts 2979 | | |
The QUESTION I wanted to ask tho is regarding the process of drawing conclusions based on reads // particular hands. I had particular hands where I wanted to ask good players "What type of read // adjustment they would make after they saw X happen for example...Or does X apply in Y situation too?"
But that is a pretty intense subject I feel so I will reserve that for when I start playing poker again.
*Note that Im just posting this so I can come back to it later. (Ex CC Ax and Not value bet thinly.) |
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hiems   United States. Apr 22 2010 23:53. Posts 2979 | | |
| On April 22 2010 22:47 player999 wrote:
good thing you dont remember hands... it means the game isnt consuming you yet
i remember way more than i wish i did |
Well its sort of consuming me already even without that! But yeah Its a great thing that I dont remember every hand at this point because I am sorta busy with other stuff.
But do you mean this jokingly? It seems you are part serious. I can see it being annoying having poker on your mind to an extreme extent. But to be a serious player isn't it a prerequisite?
edit: Actually I can't understand it. From the Microstakes player perspective I guess Im not really supposed to know what you mean by saying you dont want to remember stuff. I guess I'll have to just experience it myself if it comes to that point. |
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Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 23 2010 05:13. Posts 4742 | | |
A lot easier to remember hands you play live than online, for obvious reasons. Especially if there was talking going on in/after the hand. |
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hiems   United States. Apr 23 2010 11:09. Posts 2979 | | |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 25 2010 13:28. Posts 7978 | | |
| On April 22 2010 22:53 hiems wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2010 22:47 player999 wrote:
good thing you dont remember hands... it means the game isnt consuming you yet
i remember way more than i wish i did |
Well its sort of consuming me already even without that! But yeah Its a great thing that I dont remember every hand at this point because I am sorta busy with other stuff.
But do you mean this jokingly? It seems you are part serious. I can see it being annoying having poker on your mind to an extreme extent. But to be a serious player isn't it a prerequisite?
edit: Actually I can't understand it. From the Microstakes player perspective I guess Im not really supposed to know what you mean by saying you dont want to remember stuff. I guess I'll have to just experience it myself if it comes to that point.
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I dunno, its just that thinking about a stupid game all the time cant be a great thing, I wish I had other things in my mind lol |
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