Family member's and scams

sounds to me like your a pussy. id chase everyone out of the house by appearing out of no where with a knife/bat screaming and cursing half in english and half in a jibberish. your half senile grandma will prob be mad or frightened but who gives a fuck, shel prob forget the next day anyway. after all, your protecting what u will inevitably inherit. you gotta ask yourself....do u wanna inherit 5 million or 50 grand.

and as for "respecting her decisions", you are not respecting her if your not protecting her fortune.

then id hang several signs on ur door and gate that say "beware of dogs"

she isn't in it to make money, but just enjoys all the attention and feels important about it. making her look stupid by convincing her its all a scam will only make her more stubborn imo. try agreeing with her decisions but subtely point out inconsistencies and holes in the salespersons pitch as if you were only curious how it all works, believe me once she sees you agree with her more, she will consult with you next time and you will gain control over her - that my friend is how old people operate. lol

On October 15 2010 10:13 whamm! wrote: she isn't in it to make money, but just enjoys all the attention and feels important about it. making her look stupid by convincing her its all a scam will only make her more stubborn imo. try agreeing with her decisions but subtely point out inconsistencies and holes in the salespersons pitch as if you were only curious how it all works, believe me once she sees you agree with her more, she will consult with you next time and you will gain control over her - that my friend is how old people operate. lol

your personality does not suit your name "whamm!". u should be more opt for the baseball bat idea of mine.

just teach her to play cards so she has something to do other than buying into scams

lol. hey night i know how that shit feels, ive been there man, trust me. what i said was the only thing that worked.

On October 15 2010 09:48 Night2o1 wrote: I just don't know what to do.

Just be creative with strategies on how to get her to understand. See what works, what doesnt, what fits her personality.

But the crux of the strategy imo is to keep at it and don't stop.

On October 15 2010 10:13 whamm! wrote: she isn't in it to make money, but just enjoys all the attention and feels important about it. making her look stupid by convincing her its all a scam will only make her more stubborn imo. try agreeing with her decisions but subtely point out inconsistencies and holes in the salespersons pitch as if you were only curious how it all works, believe me once she sees you agree with her more, she will consult with you next time and you will gain control over her - that my friend is how old people operate. lol

I hear you, and this is how I've approached it. But maybe I haven't been effective at it. I hate being or feeling even remotely deceitful or sneaky with her though.. idk. I will try again over time with what you've said fresh in my mind.

I also just don't know where to agree with her when its oh so much crap..

I dk what type of person your grandma is but mine is the bestest person ever! She definitely trusts anything I say so in my situation the conversation would go like this:

Grandma is meeting w/ scammer in kitchen:

Me: "yo, get the fuk out man, stop trying to scam my grandma"
Scammer: "huh?"
Grandma: "Hunny, what are you talking about dont curse at this man"
Me: "Nah grandma, this guy is a fukin scammer trying to take ur money, ive seen this crap before, trust me (KEY WORDS, TRUST ME)
Granda: "oh, really?'
Me: "Ya, really, now get the fuk out scammer before I beat ur face in"

On October 15 2010 10:30 YouGoTGoT wrote: I dk what type of person your grandma is but mine is the bestest person ever! She definitely trusts anything I say so in my situation the conversation would go like this: Grandma is meeting w/ scammer in kitchen: Me: "yo, get the fuk out man, stop trying to scam my grandma" Scammer: "huh?" Grandma: "Hunny, what are you talking about dont curse at this man" Me: "Nah grandma, this guy is a fukin scammer trying to take ur money, ive seen this crap before, trust me (KEY WORDS, TRUST ME) Granda: "oh, really?' Me: "Ya, really, now get the fuk out scammer before I beat ur face in"

BINGOOOOOO


USE VIOLENCE IF NEEDED.

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1.kill her and get the money...
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3.profit???

nah srsly old people never listen so you cant rly do anything

I gotta agree with Jsquids on dropping the bomb on the scammers. Maybe not as excessive but I'd be prettttty pissed if some random person tried to do that to my dad.

whamms strategy works for only somebody with a persuasive manipulating personality i would never do that personally id scare away the scammers, report them to the police etc.

Give me her number. Ill help................. 8)

just walk in and poo on the floor when hes giving his pitch.

it will distract your grandma and the salesman will leave.

over time she will become conditioned that everytime she lets a salesman into the house to give a pitch, you walk into the room and poop on the floor and she will no longer allow them into the house.

lol sam & others


so this is what's going on in this particular case.... this guy is selling an annuity product that is advertised to tie up your money in an investment for 10 years, but they don't tell you that at the end of that ten years you can't actually take the money out, you have to take it out at a very small % over the next TEN MORE years or you get very large penalties. I just showed this to my grandma and obviously she is more doubtful of what I say than what this salesguy says. My only choice now is to make him show us the surrender policy.. and I'm trying to show her that if he can't produce this document then she should drop out of this investment. She almost did all the paperwork at once just now for fuck's sake I had to work myself into the conversation and stuff to slow the process down. There are TONS of complaints even class action lawsuits have been brought against this company. Its amazing that my grandma doesn't find all of this very convincing so far..:/

If anyone (ie tenbagger etc) knows anything about the annuity products that "Allianz" sells and can give me some info I'd really appreciate it.

We're talking about $70k btw.

night if your grandma is a bit senile like mine you can actually get a court order to let someone else manage her money, i.e. your parents or another relative.
or proactively manage her money: i.e. give her just enough for living expenses every month with bigger expenses having to be approved/signed by another member of the family.

honestly just go to this guy and say get the fuck out. Be rude!