Need help vs shorties

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Same with me. Seems my losses come from their endless steals, I'll experiment with even wider 3bets now.

i dont think this tells the whole picture. that 2nd graph counts things like if a shortie opens utg and you had random 2 cards in the blinds and folded i believe.

similarly i dont think that first graph is very telling either. if they actually made sense they should add up to be your 3rd graph. i cant figure out exactly why they dont make sense but i have a hunch they dont.

also it might be messed up if it gets multiway with different stack sizes, etc.

and u r for sure winning vs <30bb fishes so u r actually losing even more to pro ss :D

jolin, its because I didnt do <31 and >30 so I'm missing exactly 30bb effective stacks, and while it doesnt tell the whole story, I think we get a good enough picture from this.

its alot of bitchy math that no one ever wants to do or will ever do.

prob the best thing to do is become a ss yourself for like a month, figure out the ranges do all the math preparation and keep it in your head for good.

but anything annoying or gay they do to me, i try and implement back to them. this is prob the only thing i do and it works ok for me. i prob lose at a small rate to them.

i also think the main reason why they win so much is because of they tend to get paid with AA KK QQ so often against like AK AQ, KQ, JJ TT 99 88 when they 3 bet and fold sometimes to a 4 bet. i think regulars tend to get really smug about making ss's fold to a 4 bet and when they get called by AA KK QQ when they shove like TT they chalk it up as a cooler.

uhh just tighten up your opening ranges if there's shorties left to act behind, obv steal away if the nit shorties, but a lot are pretty adept at rejamming with a fairly good range that's enough to exploit the living shit out o fyou.

as for shorties that open wide just start 3bet/calling a wider range too. you'll find them raise/folding a ton. make sure you have value hands tho as they'll also stack off lighter and thus you need to be winning a lot of show downs.