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mnj   United States. Dec 04 2010 08:55. Posts 3848
just ended a 2/4 shot, some random ramblings, stream of conciousnesss

humbled
-lost a bit at 2/4 (combo of a few suck outs, light tilt graduating to mild tilt)

something i realized recently is that everyone at 2/4 and prob 1/2 know how to play solid. i think for the most part of my time at micro stakes/low stakes nlhe my greatest strength was playing in position with a wide range of hands while dabbling in 3 bet pots.

i played 2/4 today with just 2 tables with alot of focus. my 2 specific tables played relatively passive and although the time came for me to be the aggressor (in multiple spots) i simply passed as i didn't want the variance. however because i did this i was essentially passing up my edge. i don't feel like i have that much of an edge in these games in single raised pots.

there is alot of room for growth. i think i have all the experience and knowledge to win at 1/2 and 2/4. but the biggest problem is that piecing everything together. parallels can be drawn from single and 3bet pots, position is always key, stack/pot ratio is always in mind. like i think i know nearly all the considerations, it's just a matter of putting all the information together and reaching a thoughtful conclusion. its like learning alg 1 and 2, calc, differential equ, linear algebra and then going on and producing a thesis or a theorem of your own. it's using everything you've learned up until now to read deeper on every flop, and narrow people's ranges and pin point game flow like temperature.

playing 2 tables of 2/4 really opened my eyes as well as expanded my mind. yes it was uncomfortable but the new stimuli was sought for, and my heart hasn't pounded so hard in a very long time.

also what is your buy in rule at nl400? 25? 30? start taking shots at 20?

also it's x-mas and i may share a few tips on how i broke away from micro stakes over the course of the month.

also sc2 is as addicting as sc1

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waga   United Kingdom. Dec 04 2010 09:55. Posts 2375


  also what is your buy in rule at nl400? 25? 30? start taking shots at 20?


It depends if you play for a living or not imo ...
I've got 500 bi for nl 100$
I'll come back to nl 200 when I'll crush nl 100 (3BB/100)
I used to beat nl200 € but I took a long break from online , had a huge downswing live in October (after a monster upswing in september )

I'm an extrem obv , but I think when you play msnl , you have to worry about your winrate , not your bankroll.
my english sux , sorry ...


Carthac   United States. Dec 04 2010 10:31. Posts 1343


  On December 04 2010 08:55 waga wrote:
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It depends if you play for a living or not imo ...
I've got 500 bi for nl 100$
I'll come back to nl 200 when I'll crush nl 100 (3BB/100)



You need 50k to play safely at nl100? lol


waga   United Kingdom. Dec 04 2010 10:36. Posts 2375

It's not about safety.
It's about skill ...
nevermind it's mnj's thread


mnj   United States. Dec 04 2010 11:17. Posts 3848

hey waga i think playing better players at nl200 will put u in spots where you feel so exploited you unintentionally may tighten your asshole it's spots like these that get's you thinking and then you move down to nl100 and do the same things. at least that's how i learned some of my poker


and holy shit 500K for nl100


K40Cheddar   United States. Dec 04 2010 15:09. Posts 2202


  On December 04 2010 10:17 mnj wrote:
and holy shit 500K for nl100



GG 

waga   United Kingdom. Dec 04 2010 15:38. Posts 2375

500 x 0.1k = 50k noobz
50k is prolly still ridiculous but :
Imagine a bad reg breakeven but with a huge bankroll.
Would you tell him to move up ?
no , winrate should be the only thing that matters when you play msnl


Eluflop   Estonia. Dec 04 2010 21:53. Posts 3835

well, i guess you should start taking shots w a 30 bi br. That's safe enough imo. By the way way to take the sand out of the vagina and take shots ! good job man !


YoMeR   United States. Dec 04 2010 23:47. Posts 12438

buyin rule is whatever you're comfy with.

hell, take a 1 buyin shot if you don't care about the money and/or don't depend on poker as an income.

whereas if you're living off of it it's obv a huge difference.

just gotta find a system that works well for you. everyone is quite different.

eZ Life. 

YouGoTGoT   United States. Dec 07 2010 12:27. Posts 1118

Watch out for those 200 buy in downswonggss at NL100

YA I TALK SHIT, GOTTA DEFECATE TO CONVERSATE 

 



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