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Zep   United States. Dec 21 2010 02:27. Posts 2292
Done bitching about bad beats for awhile (I hope). Here's a graph of $3.30 90 Man KO Sngs from the last couple weeks. Had an additional break even stretch for 48 sng's on my laptop that aren't included plus a session of 16 from today where i was + 30 buy ins. Overall the last 48 sng's i was +100 buy ins. variance man, variance.





by the way im taking names of all the haters out there. I cannot wait for what the future holds for me in this sport. I'll be eating your babies and shitting on everyone.

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NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future.Last edit: 21/12/2010 03:08

Jelle   Belgium. Dec 21 2010 02:43. Posts 3476

i don't think you should be looking in term of buyins, look in terms of 1st place payouts

u were down 3 payouts or something i guess and now you're even, its not a very big swing i think and 48 of these is an incredibly tiny sample, you should probably put in a lot of volume if you want to build a roll and a graph that can give you confidence without being unrealistic

GroT 

Zep   United States. Dec 21 2010 02:59. Posts 2292


  On December 21 2010 01:43 Jelle wrote:
i don't think you should be looking in term of buyins, look in terms of 1st place payouts

u were down 3 payouts or something i guess and now you're even, its not a very big swing i think and 48 of these is an incredibly tiny sample, you should probably put in a lot of volume if you want to build a roll and a graph that can give you confidence without being unrealistic


LOL. I would love to see someone run worst than this over 45k hands with my winrate. i've ran a lot worst over bigger samples obviously, just nothing in the short term like this.

NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future. 

Zep   United States. Dec 21 2010 03:10. Posts 2292

and you should probably learn how to read before you just glimpse at a graph.

NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future. 

4TM   United States. Dec 21 2010 03:12. Posts 712

Wait...so are you saying it's easier to run bad in the long term then the short term?


Zep   United States. Dec 21 2010 03:26. Posts 2292

in terms of being below EV obviously it is easier to run worst in the long term than the short term
$/Hands obviously not.
45k sample vs 200k. in these same tournaments i've been $600 below EV over 200k hands but I had never been $500 below EV over 45k hands.
trolling?

NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future. 

4TM   United States. Dec 21 2010 04:32. Posts 712

I took it as a ROI thing. Meaning like a good player could run at a -(ROI) in the short term obviously bc of variance but not in the long term (or super long term possibly b/c of tournament variance). B/C obviously in that case you cant run worse in the long term ROI wise then in the short term if you are a winning player


edit: but in collective ev of course that's true

 Last edit: 21/12/2010 04:33

Zep   United States. Dec 21 2010 04:58. Posts 2292


  On December 21 2010 03:32 4TM wrote:
I took it as a ROI thing. Meaning like a good player could run at a -(ROI) in the short term obviously bc of variance but not in the long term (or super long term possibly b/c of tournament variance). B/C obviously in that case you cant run worse in the long term ROI wise then in the short term if you are a winning player


edit: but in collective ev of course that's true


is 1.4 million hands not collective enough to calculate EV to within -5% (Negative 5% or higher) ?
not a level.
edit: assuming a winning player.

NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future.Last edit: 21/12/2010 05:04

4TM   United States. Dec 21 2010 06:17. Posts 712

I have no idea when it comes to tournaments


Jelle   Belgium. Dec 21 2010 09:45. Posts 3476

oh it was nearly 400 sitngos! my bad

GroT 

Stygg   Sweden. Dec 21 2010 11:23. Posts 2347

never ever say "my downswing is over". jinxxxxxxxxxxxx


 



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