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mnj   United States. Dec 22 2010 01:40. Posts 3848
lameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

hedo is such a mix of bad and good. missing that dunk at the end made me embarrassed to be a magic fan. god he really made a jack ass out of himself tonight. for the record i still think he's good specifically on our team, but jesus christ when did he forget to shoot 3's. didn't think he was that bad of a shooter, and thought him generally to be a better shooter. plus he's such a fucking defensive liability. i'm just gonna go ahead and write this one off as transitioning + lack of practice issues but it's really discouraging.

on another note, there's no way hedo is going to start over richardson. richardson can actually shoot/make shots (although he shot poorly), drive to the hoop, and play defense. all flagrant shortcomings of hedo. on the other hand i do think having a point forward is somewhat nice considering i still think hedo really knows how to find dwight.

gilbert was hardly allowed to play today but i wouldn't be surprised to see him and nelson sharing the pg position quite evenly. nelson is a much better 3 point shooter imo, and can drive pretty well, but for being a pg he turns the ball a concerning amount of times. i think gilbert is more athletic and can make more "tougher" shots but shoots at a lower % from the 3 but turns the ball over less frequently.

dwight played pretty well today numbers wise but i was surprised he kept going at tyson chandler. dwight's offensive game has improved tremendously and it's really pissing me off that he didn't go to hakeem the mother facking dream olajuwon's camp earlier
instead he's wasted a few years with patrick i've never won a ring ewing. i still think dwight tried to hard to find his own shots against tyson, esp since he kept going to his strong side but he performed over all pretty well.

in general though i see a lack of confidence from our team. like everyone's wondering if they are allowed to take the shot. there are long stretches where i feel like dwight all the sudden feels uninvolved, or bass passes up a shot out of fear of taking nelson's or dwight's shot. there's got to be a certain level of trust where they stop questioning who is taking the shot and move on realizing they are taking the highest % open shot.

on a side note earle clark i thought was just fodder in the trade but he's looking like a solid C+ player. he shot with a lot of confidence and his shot selection was fantastic.
nelson although shooting near perfect from 3's def chose some bad shots but i think he sometimes has to considering he has to make the play (time is winding down).
dwight played really well, sort of took some bad shots but i suppose he's earned them with all the rebounding/defense he puts in.
richardson took some very good shots but just wasn't a good shooting night in general. a few 3's rimmed out.
pretty questionable about arenas considering he played very little, and the time that he did play was constantly interrupted by fouls. i think gilbert will fit in well once he realizes that he can in fact take some big shots. like i think he doesn't want to look like an ass taking too many shots considering he's playing on the floor with nelson/howard but i don't mind him taking some big shots. i actually want him to. i actually think there might be a point in time where he can start over nelson, but i feel svg will correctly remain loyal to nelson and diffuse potential locker room issues (correctly juggling egos. nelson would have a hard time being 2nd string and dwight would prob feel bad too considering him and nelson are bffs. wouldn't want to see a drop in effort/productivity/defense)
jj is jj. takes good shots, passes the ball well. listens to the coach.
b.bass likewise.
never really knwo what to expect from hedo =.= i really hope tehy force him to go through some decent shooting regiment.


speaking of which....


  On April 20 2010 18:50 mnj wrote:
-when derrick rose finally learns to shoot he might become the best pg to ever play the game. he's already beating ppl to the basket when they are playing like 5 feet off of him. imagine when he finally has confidence in his shot. it will be disgusting.



http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?playerId=3456 check out the steady increase in 3 point percentage. his fg% is about the same but he's become a much more confident shooter. which doesn't mean it just helps his 3 point shot but he takes jump shots more comfortably as well. of course he still drives and this makes an important part of his fg percentage but it's night and day the way he's changed his game because of his improved skills. i def remember his rookie year d.rose attempted very few 3's in general and passed up on them. took midrange jumpers hesitantly and really made his living laying up the ball. he has a lot more finesse this year and has a much more confident and balanced game.

it's a great time to be a chicago fan :/

speaking of which, i'll talk about my own views on fan etiquette.
1) it's not ok to be a celtics fan or a lakers fan unless you are from said city or have strong ties with the city ie you went to school there. as a matter of fact this carries over to football. patriot fans are the worse. i want to say like 75% of patriot fans have no affiliation with the city of boston. likewise with the NYY. IF YOU ARE NOT FROM THE BRONX U SHOULDN'T BE A NYY FAN. there's nothing more tilting than NYY fans from queens imo.

2) this make's it tough to be a fan if you are not a nyy fan, lakers fan, celtics fan, patriots fan, STEELERS fan, penguins fan, bears fan, bulls fan.

3) don't swap bandwagons. sit your ass still and be patient. i root the orlando magic which has gone through shaquille OMG o neal, tracy mcgrady, grant hill, penny hardway. we have traded all these players away and have nothing to show for. we've traded all our valuable pieces for pieces of shit players. on and we passed on c.anthony, c.bosh, d.wade for....milicic....who once again no longer plays for us, and once again we got no one for. we also traded away trevor ariza another player to add to the list of solid players. so instead we pay rashard lewis 2x of market price and lock him into a paralyzing contract restricting our next several years. next year dwight will be the biggest fish on the market. if he leaves orlando all my hopes and dreams will be crushed. i near expect this to happen considering our gm mr otis smith has been shitting on franchise for the past 15 years. i tell you its tough to be a magic fan.

4) if you live in minesota, toronto, or memphis it's ok to "root" for exactly 1 other team. as long as they are not in the play offs. if hometown team or state team is in the play offs you must stick to original team.

there are probably some more rules that i could prob think of but i'm pretty tired. kinda meant to talk about how my date went tonight with some chick i totally had a crush on back in h.shcool. but because i was an awkward nerd never had a chance. now that i'm a baller out of college it's totally cool. had a few drinks and talked alot about life. she's kind of a weird breed. she was in the gifted program with me but always managed to make friends outside of our circle. we had a few drinks and walked around a lake near uptown. anyway things went well taht's really all i have to say about that.


also as a caveat to the above list, if you are a girl you are allowed to root for bandwagon teams like the indiana colts or the patriots. esp since they make those cute necklaces that all girls seem to wear. and only later realize that a horsehoe is not only a luck charm but the actual emblem for the indiana colts. but a note to any potential girls reading this, if you are in fact a real fan and root for one team it is strangely and largely attractive. there was this one girl named allison in my h.s who later went to college with me who always rooted for the minesota vikings. i was always impressed and turned on every time she wore purple (she was also on the u.f dance team) esp those fitted jerseys.

also one last note about this girl, apparently she liked me for the longest time but i just had no facking clue so i never pursued her. fucking shit luck imo. neways off to bed. gnight. or good morning. depending on where you are from.

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P1mpdaddy   Austria. Dec 22 2010 02:51. Posts 1370

d.rose is such a monster. The way he improves his weaknesses is just mindblowing. I mean if you check his last 10 games or so he is shooting over 50% from 3.

His defense is also alot better now. He only has one weakness now...drawing fouls. If he could improve in this area there is no limit for this guy

r0cking your s0x 

thumbz555   United States. Dec 22 2010 04:36. Posts 3281

Hedo is old and slow bro. He's gonna slow down the Magic offense just like he slowed down the offense in Phoenix; you need to kiss fast break points goodbye with Hedo on your team.

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ERASA   Germany. Dec 22 2010 06:10. Posts 2440

Wasnt Orlando one of the worst fastbreak teams even before the trade? Also Hedo is like the best passer on the team right now and his defense against dirk was pretty good most of the time.
Its kind of unlucky i guess, that they have those 4 very tough games with the new squad. The way they played against dallas they wouldve won against so many teams in the nba, just happens that they run into the top of the nba's range the next to games included.
If you compare the game vs atlanta and the game vs dallas there was a tremendous improvement. Lets just hope for the best i guess

PS: This Clarke guy seems solid from what you could see. A little like Ryan Anderson in the Vince Carter trade, nobody noticed him and then he was kinda useful.

Bye


Sanai   United States. Dec 22 2010 08:46. Posts 643

Nice read. I really enjoyed the training vid. Hakeem seems like a real legit guy.


mnj   United States. Dec 22 2010 10:50. Posts 3848


  On December 22 2010 07:46 Sanai wrote:
Nice read. I really enjoyed the training vid. Hakeem seems like a real legit guy.



his nick name is "the dream" you can't get much more legit than that XD


  On December 22 2010 01:51 P1mpdaddy wrote:
d.rose is such a monster. The way he improves his weaknesses is just mindblowing. I mean if you check his last 10 games or so he is shooting over 50% from 3.

His defense is also alot better now. He only has one weakness now...drawing fouls. If he could improve in this area there is no limit for this guy



i think his other "weakness" is his nature. he doesn't have the charisma that i was hoping he would have. he's very quiet and just lets his skills talk for him. but a leader he is not. i remember him losing when he was memphis and he lacked a heart of a champion. it shouldn't be that big of a deal considering he has noah an outspoken emotional leader and boozer a veteran who most likely commands much respect from his teammates. have you seen the john wall commercials vs the d.rose commercials? i think personality contrasts are as obvious as night and day. i still <3 d.rose though. i like the quiet, killer type.

and yeh hedo def played really good d on dirk, made some nice passes, but i dunno. i hope the magic become fluid enough to compete against the lakers/celtics at the end of the season.


P1mpdaddy   Austria. Dec 22 2010 11:11. Posts 1370

ehm sorry but Rose was one FT away from winning a championship in memphis. He was a monster in the playoffs and raised his averages in every single categorie. He also won xx national titels at high school as the best player on his team. Only because he doesn't fist pump or scream all the time doesn't mean he "lacks the heart of a campion".
He is the leader on the floor and is proving it this season every single night.

John Wall has so much hype its unreal. Last time I checked he lost (with a far far superior team) in the final four. And now he sits out his first few games with minimal "injuries".

r0cking your s0x 

YouGoTGoT   United States. Dec 22 2010 11:31. Posts 1118


  On December 22 2010 00:40 mnj wrote:
IF YOU ARE NOT FROM THE BRONX U SHOULDN'T BE A NYY FAN. there's nothing more tilting than NYY fans from queens imo.



Im glad you said this now. Just in time to be up for the "dumbest things said in 2010 award". They are not the fukin Bronx Yankees. They are the NYY. If people from the city where the ballpark was located were the only fans the team would FAIL lol. Also nobody from NY could cheer for the Giants or Jets with your "rules" because they both play in NJ. And I love how this is only for good teams. So if ur Orlando Magic win like 6 rings in the next 8 years (HAHAH PFFTT YA RIGHT) and become a huge dynasty, will you make a rule that only people from ORLANDO can cheer for them? "Oh wait? you live 2 mins from orlando? but ur not IN orlando? fuk off then."

LOL

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mnj   United States. Dec 22 2010 12:03. Posts 3848

^ lol bandwaggon fan


ERASA   Germany. Dec 22 2010 12:35. Posts 2440

Had a random thought popping up. Since Matt Barnes is gone the magic lack a player who can cut hard to the basket, maybe J. Richardson can be that player? If the pass is complete its an easy basket most of the time takes away the pressure to have good shooting nights in order to win games.. hm dunno


YouGoTGoT   United States. Dec 22 2010 16:27. Posts 1118


  On December 22 2010 11:03 mnj wrote:
^ lol bandwaggon fan




I live in and was born in NY.......

I assume that you were born and live in Orlando and only cheer for the Magic and no other sports teams since that is the only team based in Orlando??

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hiems   United States. Dec 22 2010 21:32. Posts 2979

lol hakeem is like a top tier 2 playing the 5.

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