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tsasaobao   United States. Feb 18 2011 00:40. Posts 73
Why do they NEVER fold? Although I can't complain, I ran good


Submitted by : tsasaobao

Full Tilt Poker Game #28255800082: Table Figtree (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:56:24 ET - 2011/02/16
Seat 1: SaulGaramond ($10.46)
Seat 2: spacemonkey124 ($11.65), is sitting out
Seat 3: MarkyM1 ($10)
Seat 4: HachiRoku4u ($12.57)
Seat 5: m4rrs ($10)
Seat 6: ykz-lao ($13.06)
ykz-lao posts the small blind of $0.05
SaulGaramond posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #5

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to HachiRoku4u3h3c
MarkyM1 folds
HachiRoku4u raises to $0.30
m4rrs raises to $1
ykz-lao has 15 seconds left to act
ykz-lao folds
spacemonkey124 stands up
SaulGaramond has 15 seconds left to act
SaulGaramond has requested TIME
SaulGaramond folds
HachiRoku4u has 15 seconds left to act
DorianGray77 sits down
DorianGray77 adds $10
HachiRoku4u raises to $2.40
m4rrs raises to $10, and is all in
HachiRoku4u calls $7.60
m4rrs showsAsKc
HachiRoku4u shows3h3c

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $20.15)

   6h5d5c

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $20.15)

   6h5d5c8h

River (Pot : $20.15)

   6h5d5c8h7s
m4rrs shows a pair of Fives
HachiRoku4u shows two pair, Fives and Threes
HachiRoku4u wins the pot ($18.81) with two pair, Fives and Threes

Summary
Total pot $20.15 | Rake $1.34
Board:6h5d5c8h7s
Seat 1: SaulGaramond (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: spacemonkey124 is sitting out
Seat 3: MarkyM1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: HachiRoku4u showed3h3c and won ($18.81) with two pair, Fives and Threes
Seat 5: m4rrs (button) showedAsKc and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 6: ykz-lao (small blind) folded before the Flop




Submitted by : tsasaobao

Full Tilt Poker Game #24566479861: Table Lorinda (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:53:23 ET - 2010/10/09
Seat 1: Romynsky ($7.89)
Seat 2: HachiRoku4u ($10.71)
Seat 3: michas1989 ($14.43)
Seat 4: jeremie255 ($14.98)
Seat 5: jibanats ($17.22)
Seat 6: 69kk69 ($8.17)
jeremie255 posts the small blind of $0.05
jibanats posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #3

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to HachiRoku4u5s5d
69kk69 folds
Romynsky folds
HachiRoku4u raises to $0.35
michas1989 folds
jeremie255 has 15 seconds left to act
jeremie255 raises to $1.30
jibanats folds
HachiRoku4u has 15 seconds left to act
HachiRoku4u raises to $2.80
jeremie255 has 15 seconds left to act
jeremie255 raises to $14.98, and is all in
HachiRoku4u calls $7.91, and is all in
jeremie255 showsKhAh
HachiRoku4u shows5s5d
Uncalled bet of $4.27 returned to jeremie255

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $21.52)

   8s3s6d

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $21.52)

   8s3s6d4h

River (Pot : $21.52)

   8s3s6d4hQh
jeremie255 shows Ace King high
HachiRoku4u shows a pair of Fives
HachiRoku4u wins the pot ($20.09) with a pair of Fives

Summary
Total pot $21.52 | Rake $1.43
Board:8s3s6d4hQh
Seat 1: Romynsky didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: HachiRoku4u showed5s5d and won ($20.09) with a pair of Fives
Seat 3: michas1989 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: jeremie255 (small blind) showedKhAh and lost with Ace King high
Seat 5: jibanats (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: 69kk69 didn't bet (folded)




Submitted by : tsasaobao

Full Tilt Poker Game #28138755980: Table Vega (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:08:42 ET - 2011/02/12
Seat 1: JHStockton ($12.15)
Seat 3: jb12854 ($10.33)
Seat 4: erevan_plaza ($10.60)
Seat 5: HachiRoku4u ($14.20)
Seat 6: DocJosh7777 ($11.44)
DocJosh7777 posts the small blind of $0.05
JHStockton posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #5

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to HachiRoku4uQh8d
jb12854 folds
erevan_plaza folds
HachiRoku4u raises to $0.30
DocJosh7777 calls $0.25
WhereverUGo adds $5
JHStockton raises to $1.20
HachiRoku4u has 15 seconds left to act
HachiRoku4u raises to $2.40
DocJosh7777 folds
JHStockton has 15 seconds left to act
JHStockton raises to $7.20
HachiRoku4u raises to $14.20, and is all in
JHStockton calls $4.95, and is all in
HachiRoku4u showsQh8d
JHStockton showsKcKs
Uncalled bet of $2.05 returned to HachiRoku4u

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $24.60)

   Th8h3d

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $24.60)

   Th8h3d8c

River (Pot : $24.60)

   Th8h3d8c5d
HachiRoku4u shows three of a kind, Eights
JHStockton shows two pair, Kings and Eights
HachiRoku4u wins the pot ($22.96) with three of a kind, Eights

Summary
Total pot $24.60 | Rake $1.64
Board:Th8h3d8c5d
Seat 1: JHStockton (big blind) showedKcKs and lost with two pair, Kings and Eights
Seat 3: jb12854 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: erevan_plaza didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: HachiRoku4u (button) showedQh8d and won ($22.96) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 6: DocJosh7777 (small blind) folded before the Flop




Submitted by : tsasaobao

Full Tilt Poker Game #24565953297: Table Common (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:31:54 ET - 2010/10/09
Seat 1: airon103 ($3.50)
Seat 2: Domingos1983 ($8.61)
Seat 3: jennifermoore11 ($12.35)
Seat 4: 1Legacy1 ($3.79)
Seat 5: HachiRoku4u ($10)
Seat 6: Littl3Albert ($14.19)
1Legacy1 posts the small blind of $0.05
HachiRoku4u posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #3

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to HachiRoku4u3dAh
airon103 has 15 seconds left to act
airon103 folds
Domingos1983 calls $0.10
jennifermoore11 folds
1Legacy1 folds
HachiRoku4u raises to $0.40
Domingos1983 raises to $1
HachiRoku4u has 15 seconds left to act
HachiRoku4u raises to $4
Domingos1983 raises to $8.61, and is all in
HachiRoku4u calls $4.61
Domingos1983 showsTsTc
HachiRoku4u shows3dAh

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $17.27)

   9c6c9h

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $17.27)

   9c6c9hQh

River (Pot : $17.27)

   9c6c9hQh3s
Domingos1983 shows two pair, Tens and Nines
HachiRoku4u shows two pair, Nines and Threes
Domingos1983 wins the pot ($16.12) with two pair, Tens and Nines

Summary
Total pot $17.27 | Rake $1.15
Board:9c6c9hQh3s
Seat 1: airon103 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Domingos1983 showedTsTc and won ($16.12) with two pair, Tens and Nines
Seat 3: jennifermoore11 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: 1Legacy1 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: HachiRoku4u (big blind) showed3dAh and lost with two pair, Nines and Threes
Seat 6: Littl3Albert is sitting out




Submitted by : tsasaobao

Full Tilt Poker Game #28212172343: Table Preview (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:44:30 ET - 2011/02/14
Seat 1: prodigal777 ($18.47)
Seat 2: HachiRoku4u ($11.08)
Seat 3: Bartja ($10)
Seat 4: JoHnNyfKnGM ($12.14)
Seat 5: brokenlizard1 ($10)
Seat 6: shamelessdave ($13.44)
HachiRoku4u posts the small blind of $0.05
Bartja posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #1

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to HachiRoku4u9c7h
JoHnNyfKnGM folds
brokenlizard1 folds
shamelessdave folds
prodigal777 folds
HachiRoku4u raises to $0.30
Bartja raises to $1.20
HachiRoku4u raises to $3.20
Bartja raises to $10, and is all in
HachiRoku4u calls $6.80
Bartja showsAsKc
HachiRoku4u shows9c7h

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $20.00)

   6d3cJd

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $20.00)

   6d3cJd8h

River (Pot : $20.00)

   6d3cJd8h4c
Bartja shows Ace King high
HachiRoku4u shows Jack Nine high
Bartja wins the pot ($18.67) with Ace King high

Summary
Total pot $20 | Rake $1.33
Board:6d3cJd8h4c
Seat 1: prodigal777 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: HachiRoku4u (small blind) showed9c7h and lost with Jack Nine high
Seat 3: Bartja (big blind) showedAsKc and won ($18.67) with Ace King high
Seat 4: JoHnNyfKnGM didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: brokenlizard1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: shamelessdave didn't bet (folded)




Submitted by : tsasaobao

Full Tilt Poker Game #28177668721: Table Glory (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:09:43 ET - 2011/02/13
Seat 1: krab1ce ($10)
Seat 2: RunawayDJ ($8.66)
Seat 3: -Diogo-Rego-BR ($18.59)
Seat 4: HachiRoku4u ($12.11)
Seat 5: JSDieu ($10)
Seat 6: vettloffah ($10)
HachiRoku4u posts the small blind of $0.05
JSDieu posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #3

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to HachiRoku4uThTs
vettloffah has 15 seconds left to act
vettloffah folds
krab1ce raises to $0.35
RunawayDJ calls $0.35
-Diogo-Rego-BR folds
HachiRoku4u has 15 seconds left to act
HachiRoku4u raises to $1.60
JSDieu folds
krab1ce folds
krab1ce adds $0.35
RunawayDJ raises to $3.30
HachiRoku4u raises to $12.11, and is all in
RunawayDJ calls $5.36, and is all in
HachiRoku4u showsThTs
RunawayDJ showsTc7s
Uncalled bet of $3.45 returned to HachiRoku4u

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $17.77)

   KdQc2h

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $17.77)

   KdQc2h8d

River (Pot : $17.77)

   KdQc2h8dJh
HachiRoku4u shows a pair of Tens
RunawayDJ shows King Queen high
HachiRoku4u wins the pot ($16.59) with a pair of Tens

Summary
Total pot $17.77 | Rake $1.18
Board:KdQc2h8dJh
Seat 1: krab1ce folded before the Flop
Seat 2: RunawayDJ showedTc7s and lost with King Queen high
Seat 3: -Diogo-Rego-BR (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: HachiRoku4u (small blind) showedThTs and won ($16.59) with a pair of Tens
Seat 5: JSDieu (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: vettloffah didn't bet (folded)




Submitted by : tsasaobao

Full Tilt Poker Game #28292682215: Table Papyrus (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:45:03 ET - 2011/02/17
Seat 1: Nizseman ($10)
Seat 2: PokerProTM23 ($10)
Seat 3: CurtVanVort ($10)
Seat 5: HachiRoku4u ($12.04)
Seat 6: what a nit ($6.53), is sitting out
CurtVanVort posts the small blind of $0.05
HachiRoku4u posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #2

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to HachiRoku4uAs6d
Nizseman folds
PokerProTM23 raises to $0.30
CurtVanVort calls $0.25
HachiRoku4u raises to $1.30
PokerProTM23 has 15 seconds left to act
PokerProTM23 has requested TIME
PokerProTM23 raises to $2.80
CurtVanVort folds
CurtVanVort adds $0.30
HachiRoku4u raises to $12.04, and is all in
PokerProTM23 calls $7.20, and is all in
HachiRoku4u showsAs6d
PokerProTM23 showsKcKh
Uncalled bet of $2.04 returned to HachiRoku4u

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $20.30)

   9c7h4d

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $20.30)

   9c7h4dAd

River (Pot : $20.30)

   9c7h4dAd3d
HachiRoku4u shows a pair of Aces
PokerProTM23 shows a pair of Kings
HachiRoku4u wins the pot ($19.30) with a pair of Aces

Summary
Total pot $20.30 | Rake $1
Board:9c7h4dAd3d
Seat 1: Nizseman didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: PokerProTM23 (button) showedKcKh and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 3: CurtVanVort (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: HachiRoku4u (big blind) showedAs6d and won ($19.30) with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: what a nit is sitting out



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 Last edit: 26/02/2011 20:31

DONKEYLUVIN   United States. Feb 18 2011 00:57. Posts 292

Wow, stop doing this to yourself, this is terrible.


vasoline73   United States. Feb 18 2011 01:02. Posts 810

My eyesssssssssss!!! They burn!!! dqdkaljdqpowoeibbb


superfashion   United States. Feb 18 2011 01:05. Posts 918

wtf are you doing

shoving here as a bluff at 50NL is like explaning calcalus to a 6 month old cat wtf are you thinking - TalentedTom 

UN4   Canada. Feb 18 2011 01:06. Posts 61

Yeah, I figured that out after losing 2k. Looks like you realized sooner, good job.


tsasaobao   United States. Feb 18 2011 01:06. Posts 73

I was watching the 5/10 tables and saw a guy 4bet/calling with low pocket pairs. I thought I would try it too...


Arirang   Canada. Feb 18 2011 01:27. Posts 1673

It's obviously working out for you, you should keep doing it.


Gim   . Feb 18 2011 01:29. Posts 41

All of these hands look pretty standard. I don't see the point...


handbanana21   United States. Feb 18 2011 02:17. Posts 3037

entertaining hands


Spicy   United States. Feb 18 2011 02:31. Posts 1027

is this a level


traxamillion   United States. Feb 18 2011 03:05. Posts 10468

standard imo.

wp


K40Cheddar   United States. Feb 18 2011 03:37. Posts 2202


  On February 18 2011 00:06 tsasaobao wrote:
I was watching the 5/10 tables and saw a guy 4bet/calling with low pocket pairs. I thought I would try it too...



LOL at trying to play .05/.10 like 5/10. You don't understand that game. Few people do.

GG 

Gigabeef   United Kingdom. Feb 18 2011 03:56. Posts 111

I absolutely adore the way that you said that you are 4bet bluffing and then calling after they shove regardless :D

True balls imo.


CruiseR   Poland. Feb 18 2011 04:48. Posts 682


  On February 18 2011 02:56 Gigabeef wrote:
I absolutely adore the way that you said that you are 4bet bluffing and then calling after they shove regardless :D

True balls imo.




after u put in a 4bet its very hard to fold a hand unless its super garbage, considering odds

 Last edit: 18/02/2011 04:49

Gigabeef   United Kingdom. Feb 18 2011 05:26. Posts 111

If you are just going to ship anyway you might as well not bother 4betting and just push (if you are bluffing) to maximise your f.e?

I mean like in the 1st hand... with 33, when you get in its either a flip or wtf crushed. We need 38% just to break even, and against a range of TT+, KQs, AJs+ and AQo+ we only just are around that number, and this is a pretty optimistic range for preflop shoving at 10nl most of the time. In the hands we can see above, only one not bought in full fish shoved with T7, the rest are TT+ and AK which is more realistic.

So I'm not sure if I agree totally, but if the 3bet was bigger I can see what you are saying.


gawdawaful   Canada. Feb 18 2011 10:14. Posts 9012

did you just decide to 4b everytime someone 3b you?

Im only good at poker when I run good 

Senti   Poland. Feb 18 2011 10:41. Posts 57

LOL. Q8o seems funny to me now, but if you had done this to my KK I would have punched you in your face through my lcd, seriously. Going over the top of someone else's 4bet with 97o is also godly.


Three7MTL   Canada. Feb 18 2011 15:39. Posts 597

if it's a level, well done, if it's not... I guess you realized you can't do that at nl10, neither can you at any of the micros afaik, lol


rS.Wisdom[9]   United States. Feb 18 2011 16:15. Posts 1288

4 betting is for champs. however... you forgot to fold after you get caught :D


NewbSaibot   United States. Feb 18 2011 16:52. Posts 4946

It took you 10 tries to realize this?

bye now 

 
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