Swongs and Fish - NL25

Fun little hero call. I think a lot of people will just give up turn, but you won't have much FE on this type of board texture since everything is basically two overs. A good standard to go by is assume fish are going to flat your cbet with two overcards so you need to adjust by value betting extremely thin. You could call the turn bet a thin value bet and just to protect. River I check because I can't really vbet anymore, and call because I don't think villain would randomly do this with midpair or worse. His range to the river feels like it should have a LOT of air, so much that it overshadows the times he rivers a 9 or slowplays some type of hand. So I think a call is justified.

I was writing up a long blurb about betting weaker hands, but I think I wrote a little too much and got really off subject, so I'll save that in another entry.

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On March 08 2011 05:48 dogmeat wrote: even steven

lolol

wow u played pretty laggy IMO
i just cant fit this style but i think cut down ur tables would be fine if u want to play this style
and then u have enought time to think about bluff catch or bluff with
i suggest u should filter HM hands grouping and cut down opening some margianl hands
tbh there are not that many hands we can earn money with
i once thought that weak ace probably winning hands until i filter

I wouldn't play like this if I were trying to make money.

just lost 7k hu, i take even steven back

gotta love the u of i poker club. i dont know when my next guest appearance will be though!

yeah maybe trying to stop playing so laggy in such fishy waters, but ionno maybe works for you.

i would be very surprised if u can actually profit at all playing 38/29 at Nl25 6max ( For sure u can within small samples but probably not in anything 30K hands +)
lets see

On March 11 2011 12:43 PplusAD wrote: i would be very surprised if u can actually profit at all playing 38/29 at Nl25 6max ( For sure u can within small samples but probably not in anything 30K hands +) lets see

??? why shouldnt he profit?

On March 11 2011 12:21 rS.Wisdom[9] wrote: gotta love the u of i poker club. i dont know when my next guest appearance will be though!

You're always welcome as a guest speaker!

lol I'm beating you this month at NL 25 (although I played 3x as many hands )

On March 11 2011 12:45 dogmeat wrote: Show nested quote + On March 11 2011 12:43 PplusAD wrote: i would be very surprised if u can actually profit at all playing 38/29 at Nl25 6max ( For sure u can within small samples but probably not in anything 30K hands +) lets see ??? why shouldnt he profit?

Fish are going to call too much. Between the suckouts/variance/coolers you just wont get in enough money maker hands. Just gotta nit it up, put in 1 million hands, and move up after running 300 BI's below EV.

you wont bluff morons =o

What I dont understand is why you're WTSD is so low edz. Usually when I play this loose players are calling so much postflop that a bunch of showdowns are bound to happen after I give up and the turn or riv goes check/check. Are you just saving all your postflop aggression for the flop only?

On March 11 2011 21:24 NewbSaibot wrote: Show nested quote + On March 11 2011 12:45 dogmeat wrote:   On March 11 2011 12:43 PplusAD wrote: i would be very surprised if u can actually profit at all playing 38/29 at Nl25 6max ( For sure u can within small samples but probably not in anything 30K hands +) lets see ??? why shouldnt he profit? Fish are going to call too much. Between the suckouts/variance/coolers you just wont get in enough money maker hands. Just gotta nit it up, put in 1 million hands, and move up after running 300 BI's below EV.

The point of playing this loose is so that he can get in lots of pots with fish and value bet more, not so that he can bluff people off every single hand.

On March 12 2011 11:18 TilICollapse wrote: Show nested quote + On March 11 2011 21:24 NewbSaibot wrote:   On March 11 2011 12:45 dogmeat wrote:   On March 11 2011 12:43 PplusAD wrote: i would be very surprised if u can actually profit at all playing 38/29 at Nl25 6max ( For sure u can within small samples but probably not in anything 30K hands +) lets see ??? why shouldnt he profit? Fish are going to call too much. Between the suckouts/variance/coolers you just wont get in enough money maker hands. Just gotta nit it up, put in 1 million hands, and move up after running 300 BI's below EV. The point of playing this loose is so that he can get in lots of pots with fish and value bet more, not so that he can bluff people off every single hand.

Oh I know, and I'm just saying good luck value betting TPNK and 2nd pair against people playing half the deck or more. Half the time you wont ever truly know where you're at, and the other half your equity is so marginal that they're going to bink random bullshit on you anyway.

On March 12 2011 12:05 NewbSaibot wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2011 11:18 TilICollapse wrote:   On March 11 2011 21:24 NewbSaibot wrote:   On March 11 2011 12:45 dogmeat wrote:   On March 11 2011 12:43 PplusAD wrote: i would be very surprised if u can actually profit at all playing 38/29 at Nl25 6max ( For sure u can within small samples but probably not in anything 30K hands +) lets see ??? why shouldnt he profit? Fish are going to call too much. Between the suckouts/variance/coolers you just wont get in enough money maker hands. Just gotta nit it up, put in 1 million hands, and move up after running 300 BI's below EV. The point of playing this loose is so that he can get in lots of pots with fish and value bet more, not so that he can bluff people off every single hand. Oh I know, and I'm just saying good luck value betting TPNK and 2nd pair against people playing half the deck or more. Half the time you wont ever truly know where you're at, and the other half your equity is so marginal that they're going to bink random bullshit on you anyway.

uhum

Anyway I wanted to go over this hand: + Show Spoiler + Submitted by : edzwoo PokerStars Game #58909970484: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2011/03/09 8:15:40 ET Table Summa IX 6-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: aavoron8311 ($18.29 in chips) Seat 2: Filcei ($29.49 in chips) Seat 3: FTPreg ($25 in chips) Seat 4: Gleb Budakva ($22.18 in chips) Seat 5: edzwoo ($25 in chips) Seat 6: RiverBeavers ($28.37 in chips) Filcei: posts small blind $0.10 FTPreg: posts big blind $0.25 Holecards(Odds) Dealt to edzwoo Gleb Budakva: folds Gleb Budakva leaves the table edzwoo: raises $0.50 to $0.75 RiverBeavers: folds aavoron8311: calls $0.75 Filcei: folds FTPreg: folds Flop(Odds) (Pot : $1.85)     urekiusa84 joins the table at seat #4 edzwoo: bets $1.50 aavoron8311: calls $1.50 Turn(Odds) (Pot : $4.85)     edzwoo: bets $4 aavoron8311: calls $4 River (Pot : $12.85)     edzwoo: checks aavoron8311: bets $12.04 and is all-in edzwoo: calls $12.04 Showdown aavoron8311: shows (high card Jack) edzwoo: shows (high card Ace) edzwoo collected $35.12 from pot Summary Total pot $36.93 | Rake $1.81 Board   Seat 1: aavoron8311 (button) showed and lost with high card Jack Seat 2: Filcei (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 3: FTPreg (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 4: Gleb Budakva folded before Flop (didnt bet) Seat 5: edzwoo showed and won ($35.12) with high card Ace Seat 6: RiverBeavers folded before Flop (didnt bet)