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UN4   Canada. Mar 13 2011 15:59. Posts 61
Hey,

So I finally got out of NL10 (Thanks to Arirang for all your help) and I was doing O.K. at NL25 until today where I lost 400$ in 2000 hands.

I feel like when things start to go bad, it never gets better, it only becomes worst as I keep playing.

So I was wondering what do you think is a good stop loss I could set for myself ? Because clearly I'm awful at playing when I'm stuck.

The thing is I don't have that munch time to play poker, so I feel forced to play every seconds that I can because otherwise I'll never get out of this shithole that is the micro stakes. But then again if I keep playing worst when I'm losing I won't progress either...

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 Last edit: 13/03/2011 16:02

matdon460   United States. Mar 13 2011 16:14. Posts 1089

holy shit 16 buyins? stop after like 3 or 4 and take a break.

Of course it was a good shove, I won 

Carthac   United States. Mar 13 2011 16:30. Posts 1343

If you feel yourself tilting, I say stop immediately. If you feel you are still playing well(be honest with yourself about it), then I say stop at 3-5


veryGUd   United States. Mar 13 2011 16:56. Posts 625

This is nitty but i stop at 4 and don't play the rest of the day
the old adage that you play worse when stuck and better when winning comes to mind


superfashion   United States. Mar 13 2011 17:03. Posts 918

If I hit 6, I usually take a break and try to determine if it's how I'm playing that is making me lose. 25NL is a demon to people who have been grinding 10NL (talking from experience). I'm back to 10NL after getting crushed at 25NL again, but just remember the hard work that got you to 25NL in the first place and don't forget about it when you run bad or make a few mistakes. You're human and you're not going to learn unless you make a few moves here and there that don't work out.

shoving here as a bluff at 50NL is like explaning calcalus to a 6 month old cat wtf are you thinking - TalentedTom 

Arirang   Canada. Mar 13 2011 17:18. Posts 1673

Yeah, I remember getting crushed at NL25 constantly when trying to move up from NL10. We'll do another sweat session maybe.


k4ir0s   Canada. Mar 13 2011 17:42. Posts 3478

when you get better with tilt control, you can let go of your stop loss rule and focus more on volume/practice

I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -Oly 

dogmeat   Czech Republic. Mar 13 2011 17:57. Posts 6374

stoploss = br

obv

ban baal 

UN4   Canada. Mar 13 2011 18:23. Posts 61

Blueline

WHY U NO GO UP?



This shit's frustrating, I'm winning at the very least 75%+ of the pots I play but every single one I lose I get stacked.

I'M SO FUCKIN TIRED OF SUCKIN DICKS AT THIS GAME

 Last edit: 13/03/2011 19:36

joLin   United States. Mar 13 2011 18:45. Posts 3818

winning 75% of the pots is probably a leak. youre probably being a huge overly aggro monkey.

YoUr_KiLLeR @ TL 

shaw67193   United States. Mar 13 2011 21:33. Posts 465


  On March 13 2011 17:23 UN4 wrote:
Blueline

WHY U NO GO UP?
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I'M SO FUCKIN TIRED OF SUCKIN DICKS AT THIS GAME




what's your WTSD%? when i see graphs like this, its usually because i'm going to showdown too often, mostly as a result of feeling like regs are bullying me and trying to push me off lots of pots, even though that's almost never the case. don't feel so pressured to win every pot when you're taking your shots, just stick to your game and make adjustments as you see some hands at showdown and figure out what it is that everyone is doing differently at 25nl compared to 10nl (hint: its probably not much).

YO MAN YOU GOTTA LEARN THE HUSTLE MAN I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL AND IM LIKE YO I GOTTA STAY MOTIVATED CAUSE THESE COWARDS NEED TO GET STOMPED BOTTOM LINE -nolan 

K40Cheddar   United States. Mar 13 2011 21:38. Posts 2202


  On March 13 2011 17:23 UN4 wrote:
This shit's frustrating, I'm winning at the very least 75%+ of the pots I play but every single one I lose I get stacked.



Probably cause all the times you lose you are getting stacked vs losing small pots.

GG 

terrybunny19240   United States. Mar 13 2011 22:59. Posts 13829

you are spewing hard and badly my man, think more nittily and focus on getting value when you make strong hands. don't be afraid to pfr and check-fold the flop


whamm!   Albania. Mar 14 2011 08:51. Posts 11625

stop loss for mortals and "power through it" for degens


UN4   Canada. Mar 14 2011 14:43. Posts 61


  On March 13 2011 20:33 shaw67193 wrote:
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what's your WTSD%? when i see graphs like this, its usually because i'm going to showdown too often, mostly as a result of feeling like regs are bullying me and trying to push me off lots of pots, even though that's almost never the case. don't feel so pressured to win every pot when you're taking your shots, just stick to your game and make adjustments as you see some hands at showdown and figure out what it is that everyone is doing differently at 25nl compared to 10nl (hint: its probably not much).


WTSD% = 31.2
W$SD% = 50.6


  Don't feel so pressured to win every pot, just stick to your game



But that is my game... Or it used to be I guess.

 Last edit: 14/03/2011 14:43

Jhyun88   United States. Mar 14 2011 16:08. Posts 1383

Is 25nl that much different from 10nl? O_o


UN4   Canada. Mar 16 2011 17:47. Posts 61


  On March 14 2011 15:08 Jhyun88 wrote:
Is 25nl that much different from 10nl? O_o



I haven't noticed that munch of a difference. There is less super easy to exploit fish and the table dynamics are "harder" since they're is lesser horrible players.

All of the "regs" are still very very bad tho and so am I. And I obviously ran really bad too to lose that munch in such a short sample.


 



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