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VPP vs VPIP correlation? Question for VPP nerds

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whamm!   Albania. Mar 19 2011 19:41. Posts 11625
I seem to be getting an insane VPP rate .20 to .24 vpp per hand at 50nl FR which is ridiculously high compared to my previous experience with this limit/game type. I did loosen up a bit but not by much, I used to play 24 tables and play an average of 16/10 between 14/10, now that I play just a couple of tables 8 to 10 maximum, obviously I'd be playing more pots so it's kind of 18/14 to 21/16 type of game. Does the VPIP do that much to increase my VPP rate? I'm pretty sure I was averaging like 15 to 18(for good days lol). Or am I just bumhunting to an Elite level that the tables I exclusively play are retard playgrounds with high table VPIPs? seems good but it's a bit much lol

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terrybunny19240   United States. Mar 19 2011 19:55. Posts 13829

DUNNO LOL


/i helped :D

btw is your sample small


handbanana21   United States. Mar 19 2011 20:02. Posts 3037

if u 24 tabled the rate would prob go back to normal. Bumhunting gives u a sick good rate


whamm!   Albania. Mar 19 2011 20:14. Posts 11625


  On March 19 2011 18:55 Night2o1 wrote:
DUNNO LOL


/i helped :D

btw is your sample small



not much around 7k but its a decent indicator since vpps are consistent , its not like winrates lol



  On March 19 2011 19:02 handbanana21 wrote:
if u 24 tabled the rate would prob go back to normal. Bumhunting gives u a sick good rate



didn't realize how sick of an increase it would give me , i mean it was always .15 on regular nitard FR tables, now i check and see .24 per hand

 Last edit: 19/03/2011 20:22

gawdawaful   Canada. Mar 19 2011 22:29. Posts 9012

did you last play on stars before they started giving fractional vpps?

Im only good at poker when I run good 

Mariuslol   Norway. Mar 19 2011 22:46. Posts 4742

wat iz this fractional vpp? plx elaborate xD


whamm!   Albania. Mar 19 2011 23:15. Posts 11625

u mean those .xxx ones? i only stopped playing actively like 5 months ago, been playing on off jan this year and only noticed this when i dropped tables and loosened up/table selected hard


terrybunny19240   United States. Mar 20 2011 02:25. Posts 13829

fractional vpp is just so u don't get stiffed on rakeback in small pots that don't rake a full vpp


sTrAtO   Mexico. Mar 20 2011 03:38. Posts 5882

The higher your VPIP, the higher your VPP rate cause the more hands you play/raise with the more rake you pay. I don't know about the increase, as it depends on how lose you are playing but it definitely matters.

I guess it also depends on the games your playing. If you are playing tables with a lot of aggressive and recreational players your VPP will obviously be higher in relation to a table full of 12/10 nits.

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rockman255   Canada. Mar 20 2011 09:31. Posts 4471

what strato said


so playing 12/10 is really low vpp rate (although, playing 12/10 is REALLY easy to mass table imo, compared to playing like 20/16 or whatever)

wait, let me clarify, your vpip OR your opponents vpip affect it similarly, yeah

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rockman255   Canada. Mar 20 2011 09:32. Posts 4471

also, its another discussion altogether, but i think that playing higher vpip (GENERALLY) creates more variance for you, so you better be getting a longterm benefit out of it (a higher BB/100) because its going to do that..yeah

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gawdawaful   Canada. Mar 20 2011 15:32. Posts 9012


  On March 20 2011 01:25 Night2o1 wrote:
fractional vpp is just so u don't get stiffed on rakeback in small pots that don't rake a full vpp



Which adds up at 50 and 100NL!

Im only good at poker when I run good 

whamm!   Albania. Mar 20 2011 17:45. Posts 11625

ayt thx. i was surprised and thought there was some vpp rate adjustment since .15 to .24 is a huge jump and i havent experienced it before so it surprised me to check hem vpp stats.


 



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