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Haunted   United States. Apr 03 2011 17:55. Posts 86
hmmmmm now that ive actually accomplished step one and youre actually reading this trash i guess i should say something interesting.

i just started playing poker this month and im working really hard to improve and get everything straight so i can improve and hopefully making enough to live. i started off horrrrrrrrrribly and have made a pretty nice comeback.



in the first 2k or so hands or so im just running well and playing tight. after that i get cocky and start to loosen up and i get destroyed for playing like an idiot and constantly over committing to lost pots and try to win too many pots needlessly. from about 12k hands or so up until now ive been studying and working to improve my poker logic and overall process of analyzing the hands im in.

rekruls really the reason why im doing this, i loved how he put it that "poker is freedom". its pretty poetic the way i see it, poker unlocks a million doors for you at the end of the day. if youre willing to give it your all and do everything within your power to improve the game will be gracious to you and give you a good life.

ive been working about 12 hours a day studying and playing, im doing my best to be patient and pick my spots rather than trying to win every pot. after reading a bit of david sklansky's, barry greenstein's, and gus hansen's books it helped my view of poker tremendously and im getting a firm grasp on poker quickly.

***SUPER KEY POINT***
minimizing your losses is an absolute must.

5 Other Key things learned thus far.****
1 dont over commit to too many pots
2 big pots are for big hands, use checking to help control the pot size
3 dont be overly aggressive SB-EP, try to play only decent to strong hands OOP
4 get a read on their hand and stick with it (but obviously update your view of their hand based on incoming information), its better to be decisive and be wrong than be indecisive.
5 +EV is going to be +$ poker

ill do my best to post consistently and try to catalog my progress, feel free to comment on my hands. good luck

what could i have done to extract more here?

PokerStars Game #60283890304: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2011/04/03 17:06:51 ET
Table 'Arequipa VII' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Onra57 ($12.64 in chips)
Seat 2: HMisi ($3.29 in chips)
Seat 3: furzkissen80 ($5.53 in chips)
Seat 5: poker777roza ($14.41 in chips)
Seat 6: Macami123 ($4.26 in chips)
Seat 7: tourell ($2.25 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero ($5.12 in chips)
Seat 9: viclipucli ($1.93 in chips)
poker777roza: posts small blind $0.02
Macami123: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ac Ah]
tourell: folds
Hero: raises $0.15 to $0.20
viclipucli: calls $0.20
Onra57: folds
HMisi: folds
furzkissen80: folds
poker777roza: folds
Macami123: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ad 3s Qs]
Hero: checks
viclipucli: checks
*** TURN *** [Ad 3s Qs] 2s
Hero: bets $0.20
viclipucli: folds
Uncalled bet ($0.20) returned to Hero
Hero collected $0.45 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.47 | Rake $0.02
Board [Ad 3s Qs 2s]
Seat 1: Onra57 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: HMisi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: furzkissen80 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: poker777roza (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Macami123 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: tourell folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Hero collected ($0.45)
Seat 9: viclipucli folded on the Turn

I tried to trap but he didnt bite and once the turn brought a 3rd spade i felt i had to bet. what could i do differently there?



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 Last edit: 03/04/2011 18:10

Haunted   United States. Apr 03 2011 17:57. Posts 86

sidenote, i tried to rate my own blog a 5 and it didnt count, fml.


K40Cheddar   United States. Apr 03 2011 19:51. Posts 2202

bet flop bet turn bet river

don't get fancy and slowplay cause you essentially miss a whole street of potential value

GGLast edit: 03/04/2011 19:52

drone666   Brasil. Apr 03 2011 22:43. Posts 1825

gus hansen book must be shit
I saw one of his pokervideos and he was playing nl100FR
remember that he said something like that:
''as the blind is really small, you can basically see every flop'' LOL

Dont listen to anything I say 

Haunted   United States. Apr 03 2011 23:11. Posts 86

id give hansens a 3 out of 10 to be honest, it literally taught me nothing i didnt already know.


boreHM   Netherlands. Apr 04 2011 00:26. Posts 1595


  On April 03 2011 22:11 Haunted wrote:
id give hansens a 3 out of 10 to be honest, it literally taught me nothing i didnt already know.

I thought that was one of the key interesting points about the book
(I'm talking about "every hand...", dunno if he has more books)
all he did was not fuck up for a whole tournament and binked the whole thing
imo good lesson to learn: maybe the most important thing of all is just to not fuck up

just start by betting flop in that aces hand


TheMusiC   United States. Apr 04 2011 03:08. Posts 39

bet that flop and if he folds oh well, you won't always get action on your sets.

keep working dude, you seem like a motivated guy!


By.Elite   Canada. Apr 04 2011 10:34. Posts 25


  On April 03 2011 16:55 Haunted wrote:
im working really hard to improve and get everything straight so i can improve and hopefully making enough to live.

try to win too many pots needlessly.

do everything within your power to improve the game will be gracious to you and give you a good life.

im doing my best to be patient and pick my spots rather than trying to win every pot.



Am I the only one who sees a contradiction here ? If you're really trying your hardest to learn and improve, shouldn't you disregard money and try to win every pot ? Seems to me like trying to win everything is a good way to learn/improve, might cost you money tho... In my opinion, you're not going to learn munch (or anything else then how to value bet vs fish) if you play predefined hands based on your position with patterned post-flop tendencies. Sure you can win money by doing that, but it'll slow your learning curve drastically.


Mortensen8   Chad. Apr 04 2011 11:06. Posts 1841

^^ ehm no you shouldn't try and win every pot just play reasonably something like 50% btn 25% co 13% mp, utg... you shouldn't cbet every flop either in my opinion since they will just float and be calling stations in general. Dry A, K or Q high flops are fine but should generally be c-betting with some sort of equity even if it's just over cards or a gutshot you are not looking to make big multi barrel bluffs at this level since players are generally incapable of folding a pair. This is all player dependant of course go ahead and c-bet every time against some players etc etc

I see what you're saying about learning but you will still learn by playing very straight forward losing money for the sake of learning is probably not a good idea.

Rear naked wokeLast edit: 04/04/2011 11:13

Haunted   United States. Apr 04 2011 12:07. Posts 86


  On April 04 2011 09:34 By.Elite wrote:
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Am I the only one who sees a contradiction here ? If you're really trying your hardest to learn and improve, shouldn't you disregard money and try to win every pot ? Seems to me like trying to win everything is a good way to learn/improve, might cost you money tho... In my opinion, you're not going to learn munch (or anything else then how to value bet vs fish) if you play predefined hands based on your position with patterned post-flop tendencies. Sure you can win money by doing that, but it'll slow your learning curve drastically.


ive tried doing logical bluffs at my limits and aggressing in scary areas to get them to fold weak hands and they will honestly refuse to fold 2d2c on an AhKhQh board where i lead in UTG and then barrel 2 streets. I agree that trying to be crafty and pull down some pots you wouldnt otherwise win is a hugely important thing to do in improving your overall game. but id say about 75%+ of players at this limit ignore you and just call you down on every street regardless of if they have 4th pair post flop or not :/


 



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