Binge eating

I read some really interesting and convincing argument for the "paleo" lifestyle. the idea is basically to try to eat similarly to how our ancestor's ate over hundreds of thousands of years of evolution, before the "western" diseases came into prominence (obesity, diabetes, cancer). so I'd re-evaluate your basic guidelines you use for your eating habits before worrying labeling yourself as having a disorder. if it helps any, one of my heroes and extremely intelligent person Nassim Taleb follows this lifestyle under the tutelage of the grandfather of paleo Arthur DeVany, and he has had great results (Was overweight and feeling crappy, now a healthy weight and feeling great for 3 years now).

just got done learning about this in my psych class. its definitely a heritable disorder. it may be because of an overactive lateral hypothalamus and/or underperforming ventromedial hypothalamus. you really gotta exercise your human will to overcome those physiological problems at this point without taking any medication. best of luck to you man

On May 19 2011 15:34 Night2o1 wrote: I read some really interesting and convincing argument for the "paleo" lifestyle. the idea is basically to try to eat similarly to how our ancestor's ate over hundreds of thousands of years of evolution, before the "western" diseases came into prominence (obesity, diabetes, cancer). so I'd re-evaluate your basic guidelines you use for your eating habits before worrying labeling yourself as having a disorder. if it helps any, one of my heroes and extremely intelligent person Nassim Taleb follows this lifestyle under the tutelage of the grandfather of paleo Arthur DeVany, and he has had great results (Was overweight and feeling crappy, now a healthy weight and feeling great for 3 years now).

Yeah I have seen this in various resources from Men's Fitness, Primal Blueprint etc and it is definitely my diet target eventually, but one of the advice that is strongly focused on in the binge eating books is NOT to diet, including food avoidance and calorie control. This sucks because when I am fat I naturally want to focus on dieting (and I have, only to bring back more binges). And when dieted it didn't help, but otherwise. I did induce vomiting a couple times when I made myself sick with food but luckily I have managed to avoid that because the effects are disastrous

Primary problem is not that I am fat or that I eat bad foods because I am comfortable with my appearance, but that I bomb myself so often with food and I can't play poker or do anything else for hours after the episode, and it also disrupts my sleep and during the binges I always go for the 'bad' foods, like I see my control suppressed and I end up buying a chocolate ice cream and eat the whole tub in one sitting uncontrollably.

Lem Lemoncloak? I'm gonna be very blunt with you.

My 2c: put yourself on a regimented nutrition/exercise plan and stick to it. Tell your gf to push you. Allow yourself a bit of reprieve from the diet like one day/week, but no more than that. Fantastic website to create a diet/workout program to fit your needs/goals:

http://www.coreperformance.com/

If you're gonna lose weight/live healthier you really have to want it. I worked as a personal trainer for like 3 years during college and I saw a plethora of people, but the majority of which didn't want to see results bad enough and weren't willing to make any sacrifices and were very unmotivated. Being overweight runs in my family as well as with many of the people I've worked with. You need to bump your confidence up and tell yourself that you CAN do this. Your GF needs to tell you that yes, you CAN do this and you WILL.

When you're about to put something in your mouth, you need to ask yourself "why am I eating this?" That answer is easy for a lot of things: Fish? Protein, omegas. Fruits + Veggies: vitamins, minerals, fiber, unprocessed sugars. White rice? Uh.... Well maybe I won't eat that? Snickers bar? uhh.... cuz I don't wanna see my abs ever?

Last thing: cut down on your portion sizes. Easy way to do this is to grab a smaller plate than you normally do and don't go back for seconds. Eat more often, but smaller amounts. Something commonly misunderstood is that you can't eat carbs: well that isn't necessarily true. You really just want to avoid processed carbs. Eat as many fruits and vegetables as you want. GL sir.

yah my knowledge of this disorder is practically non-existent. I guess as a little aside on paleo, it seems wise to just change your food choice guidelines in general than to try to conform to a specific "Diet" like your body is a machine.. paleo is a change of guidelines, not a diet that sets certain goals (calorie or otherwise) beyond, "I'm going to eat healthy and reap the rewards"

I think that is a pretty important distinction since, as you know I'm sure, the vast majority of people who go on diets.. fail.

but fatty foods are cheap and inexpensive and easy to prepaaaaaaaaare Q_____Q

You're most likely just eating the wrong (bad) types of food and snacks. It's easy to be addicted to that kind of food and it's obviously putting a lot of stress on your body. If you were eating the right types i bet this problem would go away. The main reason this is the case is because your body is going to be a lot more satiated on good old fashioned wholesome food since it's actually being nourished instead of given food with little nutritional vlaue. If you are eating really good food and still feel a massive need to eat then just listen to your body and eat as much as u want. After a while you'll probably crave less if you are eating good foods. For me, i sometimes get bored and want something to munch on while checking out a movie or w/e and in those cases i'll make something random from stuff around the house but it's all good quality food and thats the most important thing.

The Paleo diet is a really good place to start off but don't get too caught up in it and definitely don't consider it a diet. First and foremost i want u to undestand that i'm not trying to give u weight loss advice and just because I mentioned the word diet it doesn't mean you should be cutting back and starving yourself. All the word diet means in the way i'm using it is basically a selection of foods you choose to eat from without holding back on quantity. In other words, I'm trying to give u advice that will subdue your food cravings without forcing yourself to do anything stupid like cut calories. As a bonus, you can most likely expect weight loss over time.

I'd also suggest buying an eye mask to improve your quality of sleep as your body will produce the most melatonin in a pitch dark environment. If sound is an issue you could try ear plugs designed for sleeping also but eye mask alone has worked well for me.

As for me, i lost like 140 lbs (10 stone) and didn't restrict calories a single day or excercise on a consistent basis. I used to have cravings like you so i believe i know exactly what you're talking about.

Binge eating will be an official diagnosis in the next DSM-V (As of know it's under "Eating disorders not otherwise specified"

http://www.dsm5.org/ProposedRevisions/Pages/proposedrevision.aspx?rid=372

do you have this as well: C. Marked distress regarding binge eating is present.

I used to have an absurd diet when i was working
I would finish at 9pm, and was in range of about every fast food place available.

a typical order would look like this:

a 12.5" pizza, 6 x chicken tenders, cajin wedges, a family size bag of potatoe chips, a family size bar of chocolate or packet of biscuits, a 2.25ltr coke zero (lol)

I would go home, put on TV or a movie, and just eat until I could eat no more. Id usually get through about half the pizza, all the wedges/chicken, most of the chips and all of the chocolate. I also got stretch marks on my stomach in this time. I put on over 10kgs in 3 months.

Once i went to Burger King and Wendys drive-thru back to back because i wanted an outlaw burger from BK and a buffalo chicken burger from Wendys (one was a combo, coz i obv needed fires and a milkshake to go with them)

Eventually a ballooned to my highest weight ever at 112kgs around Christmas 2009. My gf at the time got really fat too, when youre in a relationship you lose that incentive to stay healthier. So we would always go out for KFC and stuff and just be fat together. It was really hard when i started losing weight because it felt like she was trying to sabotage my efforts at times. I tried to get her involved too and be healthier together, but that didnt work, and she got scared that I would get fit and then leave her for a thinner girl. It sucks to have someone around making sarcastic comments when youre tryin to get shit done. We broke up not long after that.

Right now im at 103kg. I didnt really lose much in Thailand coz my beer consumption spiraled and they tend to deep-fry a lot of food. Since being back in NZ Ive stopped drinking daily, lowered my chocolate intake, dont eat as much bread/cheese and have started doing some cardio.

Its not a drastic turn-around but the ball is moving in the right direction.

It was REALLY hard to break the cycle I was in of daily fast--food.

I love to eat fast food and im a fat bastard who eats too much in one sitting, does that mean i suffer from an eating disorder?

I think im addicted to fast food, everytime im hungry i cant stop thinking about it just need my next fix.