Creative thinking and inebriating substances

u high bro?

*subtle attempt to make us pot addicts*

I think there is genuine creative thinking. A lot of music and literature was produced on psychedelics. Im pretty sure Mary Shelley was on heroin or something when she wrote Frankenstein, and its not hard to find music written under the influence (Beatles etc.)

Then there is "creative thinking" which is a term used by mushroom farmers* in business.

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It doesnt really mean anything, its just from the arsenal of buzz words that they read in their marketing book at uni.

I dont really know what has been created whilst stoned, whether youre actually being more creative, or youre just more aware of your creative state. Things are hysterically funny when youre stoned, its not that the joke is any funnier, its just coz youre stoned.

We do slowly have our creative side killed off. I went to a grammar school (sick brag) so we were supposed to be the top 10% of the county. As such everything was geared towards academic subjects and things like Art and Music were just there because the curriculum demanded 1 hour per week.

It was drilled into our heads that these were of no importance and led to very little. There were very talented artistic/musical people at our school who never got any recognition for their talent, it was the opposite for maths and science. It was pretty sick looking back at how shit they treated us (Im talking about being teachers here, not other students)

I still have a deep hatred for almost every teacher I had at school. There is a lot that ive found out went on when I was there and it is really quite shocking what went.

When people get a job, theyre not required to think creatively, because creative thinking means you wont follow the protocol and guidelines and eventually youll fuck something up. A manager wants someone who follows script.

On May 21 2011 01:28 byrnesam wrote: I think there is genuine creative thinking. A lot of music and literature was produced on psychedelics. Im pretty sure Mary Shelley was on heroin or something when she wrote Frankenstein, and its not hard to find music written under the influence (Beatles etc.) Then there is "creative thinking" which is a term used by mushroom farmers* in business. *+ Show Spoiler + Somebody who treats people like mushrooms - keeps them in the dark, whilst feeding them shit. A manager who fails to inform his staff of important details, whilst spewing forth a large quantity of "management speak" such as "at the end of the day, we have to move the goal posts for team productivity, and embrace more bluesky thinking" It doesnt really mean anything, its just from the arsenal of buzz words that they read in their marketing book at uni. I dont really know what has been created whilst stoned, whether youre actually being more creative, or youre just more aware of your creative state. Things are hysterically funny when youre stoned, its not that the joke is any funnier, its just coz youre stoned. We do slowly have our creative side killed off. I went to a grammar school (sick brag) so we were supposed to be the top 10% of the county. As such everything was geared towards academic subjects and things like Art and Music were just there because the curriculum demanded 1 hour per week. It was drilled into our heads that these were of no importance and led to very little. There were very talented artistic/musical people at our school who never got any recognition for their talent, it was the opposite for maths and science. It was pretty sick looking back at how shit they treated us (Im talking about being teachers here, not other students) I still have a deep hatred for almost every teacher I had at school. There is a lot that ive found out went on when I was there and it is really quite shocking what went. When people get a job, theyre not required to think creatively, because creative thinking means you wont follow the protocol and guidelines and eventually youll fuck something up. A manager wants someone who follows script.

In the future though when we have robots to think and do all of our stuff, it may be that the only work required will be creative thinking and kids will take all sorts of drugs to come up with creative stuff to pass their tests

i believe the higher i am the more creative i am. almost all of us are intellectuals, which means we're already naturally deep thinkers;

dude, been a while since i seen ya, lets burn some lettuce sometime ;-)

thanks for the replies guys

nice thoughts byrnesam.. kind of interested in why you hate your teachers and what you learned later on. I usually think about a teacher I thought was crap or sub par with distaste but not hatred :D

Ill make a blogpost about them sometime lol

just watched limitless last night lol, need some NZT!

This isn't blog worthy but its relevant and want to put it down somewhere:

An example of how "strategies for thinking" are important
My moneybelt is something I used it in Vegas to hold my bankroll, because its more secure than putting all that cash in my wallet or rubberband. I need it again, so I was trying to remember where it was. "Where is my money holder?" I thought to myself. "Where did I put that damn thing.. uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....." and I couldn't remember. Today I was thinking, "I need somewhere to put my bankroll" and I instantly remembered where I stored my moneybelt.

I couldn't remember where I had put my moneybelt because I wasn't asking myself the right questions. When in Vegas, I never thought of it as my moneybelt but as my bankroll. This example is specifically relevant to memory recall, but I reckon that part of effective thinking in general is knowing to ask yourself questions.