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I feel like I am at 20% and the more I study the less I know

Gl with the pursuit and posting hands will only help you, but you know that already ha.

hi welcome to liquidpoker.net , wish you luck in your pursuit of poker knowledge

On August 04 2011 01:22 patti wrote: I feel as though I am at the 60% level, but I do see a ceiling/limit to how good a player can be. All the best

now you are being way over optimistic.

i think jungleman is 1%. And most mid stakes players are .01%.

Just came from holliday, Italy, I crushed live there at 10-20, played like 40 hours live, up 4000e, I tried the new ita sites who just launched, crushed 100nl and 200nl around 20bb/100 10k sample.

I feel i'm around 40% of 100%. What lemon writes holds true, the more you learn the more you know you don't know. Sauce put it best, people try to simplify the game, making it out to be a lot easier than it is. In broad strokes you can try simply it, but you'll never be "amazing" if you do.

The players who instantly see all combonitorics on the flop, intuetively, really feel them, then according to what the villain does, can cut their range off, and make it narrower depending on the action, then according to the turn card brings any draws, big changes, not fall for any "weird" lines if those don't go hand in hand with the range they have them on make subtle variation.

And this is just in a hu spot, everything changes according to the dynamic as well, the timings of it all so much more important than what I ever realized. Knowing how crazy many combo's people can have if the board just doesn't have any straights but so many possible.

Semi blew my mind when a mate of mine came behind me, pot was limped, I was gonna pot it, he said, nu uh, 4-5 way, and he took x4 the pot, I got callers, Ive only got 2nd pair, i'm confused, he said, no no, ur still good, and im worried, a Q hit the turn, he pot again, all folded except one, river A, ive got 3rd pair, he said check, i did, villain all in, i sink in my chair, and he says, snap call here. And I did, and i'm like ÔÔ and I had just started feeling good and now I felt shit again.

Sorry for rant <3

a polite way of saying, u don't get good with so little volume and so little practice =]

I bet if you asked isildur/dwan/ivey/anybody how close they feel they are to solving poker they would probably say about 50%.

Which means you, as a live player, probably have about 5% solved.

On August 04 2011 02:17 LemOn[5thF] wrote: I feel like I am at 20% and the more I study the less I know

this could be the case xD i wouldn't be surprised if i'm overestimating my knowledge

On August 04 2011 02:19 Highcard wrote: Gl with the pursuit and posting hands will only help you, but you know that already ha.

this is wonderful, ty for your encouraging words as well as your strong advices in the forum

On August 04 2011 06:03 Mariuslol wrote: Just came from holliday, Italy, I crushed live there at 10-20, played like 40 hours live, up 4000e, I tried the new ita sites who just launched, crushed 100nl and 200nl around 20bb/100 10k sample. ...edited for length a polite way of saying, u don't get good with so little volume and so little practice =]

i hear that :D

On August 04 2011 11:06 NewbSaibot wrote: I bet if you asked isildur/dwan/ivey/anybody how close they feel they are to solving poker they would probably say about 50%. Which means you, as a live player, probably have about 5% solved.

this is necessarily condescending, and flagrantly wrong. just like chess has a clear end, the more i learn about poker the more i grow sure it has a clear end as well. as i will repeat from my initial post
" For example I think jungleman/sauce/isuldur all prob know close to 98% of all knowledge/theory/metagame about poker and think edges are literally day to day based on how they feel"

i am fairly confident if you ask players mentioned in the LP's Own thread, players like fayth, evilsky, tt, nolan, wobbly, andrewsong i'm absolutely sure have all reached/surpassed that 90% threshold. if you put any of the said player against whoever you think to be the best player such as dwan or jungleman, i'm sure dwan and jungleman might still have an edge but i believe it to be truly marginal although significant.

Listen buddy, there's like 30,000 rungs on the ladder...