how did i start to suck so much? :O

VPIP/PFR/Agg Freq 3bet
37/24/35 10 fold2 3bet: 10 500 hands,
the guy is a maniac, thought there are so many draws i can shove here

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43/29/47 4 60 hands,
thought he can play his draws like this too and will bet them cause the guy behind is 66/35 for 100 hands, so since i checked turn he'd like to take the pot

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64/42/28 9 100 hands
i guess turn is a fold here


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24/19/32 8 1.1k
cold 4bet cause he 3bets a lot, its BTNvsCO - regvsreg, maybe i should think that we are deeper and he will be not folding so easily, not sure if i should even bet turn


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26/19/36 7 200 hands, fold flop? is stackoff ok here?

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37/34/52 32 260 hands, not sure if i should fold turn?



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60/20/38 10 80 hands
maybe i can check behind turn? i mean if he cbet/ call flop he prolly isnt going anywhere


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45/10/54 6 80 hands
this river is a fold to min-r but i just couldnt do it and also i should bet more to make it look like a busted draw, and bet more on turn since there are so many draws and he is in possition so he will call a lot prolly

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Your miss playing some hands. so you def. have some fundemental leaks.


just quickly

1) flat pre.
2) check fold turn
3) bet 3 bet the flop, and commit.
4)WTF is this? you butchered it terrible preflop
5)3 bet squeeze pre or just muck,
6)check call flop, check raise = spew
7)muck preflop
8)check turn possibly fold

dude you miss played every hand you posted, you could use some coaching

1. I agree that it's a squeeze pre, cbet smaller and ch-f turn.
2. Even if we have the best hand and get called on the flop, they will take down the pot on turn or river a lot anyways, I would just ch-f flop.
3. I would assume he always has a flush here, I think calling flop and folding turn is best.
4. Don't 4bet
5. Squeeze pre, I think a stack off here is fine.
6. Flat flop.
7. I prefer a 3bet or fold, unless there's a fish in the blinds and no squeeze happy players behind, then I'd call.
8. I would cbet a little bigger, turn a little bigger and probably shove or ch-c river.

perhaps I should get a coach too.

1. Squeeze pre is good in these positions. Cbet isn't bad, but I prefer checking here particularly vs 2 people. You don't really need to protect from anything, you rarely get called by worse when you cbet, and you can't really bet/call, and people don't mess around so much in these spots, so you're not super likely to get bluffed out, for all those reasons I think a check is better on flop. Turn is a mandatory check/fold, it seems you're just hoping he has exactly JT check shoving but in reality he could've easily just slowplayed KQ or a set, have KT, KJ and just obviously never be folding those to a check shove given the remaining stack sizes.

2. Another spot where I'd just check flop. As played it's a massive spew to check shove the turn here, I mean you were called by 2 people on the flop, someone has to have an ace and you have 2 outs vs an ace, that's like 5% equity with 1 card to come. Just check fold turn as played.

3. It's gonna depend on the tendencies of the villain, how much he's bluffing and whatnot, but generally people won't raise bluff this board texture 3 way against a bet and a call, so you have to start evaluating his value range and how you do against it. Most people's value range here looks like: Flushes and sets mainly, because people don't usually have 85 and 53 in their preflop range in these spots but this guy has super loose stats so straights and 2 pairs are probably more likely for this guy, anyway against that range you're doing pretty poorly on the flop so getting it in vs his value range would be atrocious and he would have to be folding to a 3bet tons to make that a good play, anyway you call which is good. Against the same value range I mentioned on the flop, the turn is just a fold, you're behind almost always (Unless he's bluffing) and you don't odds to continue. The only way I'd call here is if he's super batshit insane and is bluffing relentless in terrible spots to bluff. As for shoving over his river bet I have no clue what you're doing there.

4. Cold 4betting these spots is "ok" from time to time if villains have fairly wide ranges pre AND are capable of folding, it would be silly to have 0% bluffing frequency in these spots when playing vs regulars, so I don't mind it, but it shouldn't be a standard. As for postflop I think cbetting is fine, and betting turn is fine, I'd prob just end up getting it all in here with 2nd nuts, I'd expect most people to just jam the flop with any naked Ad hand so I think he shows up with enough JdJx and TdTx and whatnot to make getting it in there profitable.

5. I think flatting pre is fine, I don't think there's enough value in a squeeze pre with this hand unless the guy who called UTG+1 is a bad player in which case you squeeze in order to isolate him, but otherwise flatting is fine. It'd be too weak to fold this pre but not strong enough to squeeze given positions. I'd start by checking flop, PFR will cbet this board texture almost always and you avoid spots like this. I'd prob just fold to the raise, his sizing is committing, I doubt if he's ever bluffing, or doing this with KQ so you're either doing ok vs some kind of draw or you're totally dicked by a set. It's usually prudent to avoid way behind/slightly ahead spots, also you still have to worry about the preflop raiser who just flat called your donk, he could be slowplaying some % of the time too, or even just decide to flat KK or AA for deception or whatever.

6. When you raise flop you really need a plan, make the decision on the flop what your intention is. I mean the turn card is far from great, but you needed to take that into consideration when you bet the turn, if you weren't sure if you were bet calling you could've just checked back the turn. I don't mind raising the flop since his sizing is so small and you have a strong hand, but if you don't know how the villain is going to respond just call down instead, villains with stats like these and weird sizing in general will often times just random spazz bluff 3 streets so I'd rather just call to bluffcatch and make money from some weaker hands that are value betting than raising and hoping he somehow spazz shoves or floats or whatever.

7. I'd fold to the open raise, use some HEM filters and see how much money you're winning losing with hands similar to these when you flat call pre - the vast majority of people are losing money on calls like this. It really doesn't flop well enough often enough. As played post flop is fine

8. I'd just go slightly bigger flop and turn so I could shove river for <pot. You make more value from draws betting bigger on previous streets and he's 45/10, he's unlikely ever folding Qx even if you bet bet shove - look to maximise value vs draws and Qx by betting bigger each street and shoving river here. As played well you're almost certainly beat, but that doesn't matter, it matters how you played vs his range and you lost a lot of value long term.

Also; It seems like your preflop stats are too tight. My UTG UO PFR is as high as your CO UO %... You can get a few more hands into your UTG range and a LOT more hands into your CO and BTN range. 35% steal from BTN is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too low. You always have position and only 2 people to get through to steal blinds, your steal success % there is going to be huge. My BTN UO PFR is something like 75% of hands and with some combinations of SB and BB it should be even more than that. Just raise 2.5x, the steal only has to work 62.5% of the time to show immediate preflop profit with that sizing, which it will if there's 2 regulars in the blinds. Regulars usually fold upwards of 80% in blinds vs steal, so if there's 2 regulars folding that 80%, which is quite a low fold % for a lot of regulars, then they both fold a combined 64% (In reality even more than that, because when SB 3bets BB is going to enter the pot much less than 20% of the time) and you'd have a profitable steal with 100% of hands. Also if you do get flat called, you're showing even more profit postflop, because they fold so much to cbets, you have position and can get more money in when you want and pot control, take off free ones when you want and regulars have quite well defined preflop ranges so you can hand read a lot better than they can. Add to that you'll have a better image and it becomes easier to get thin value from strong hands and it's going to be a lot more profitable to play a lot more hands in late position. But even in UTG, 12% UO PFR is so low, you must be folding some hands that are profitable opens just because they're strong enough to open for straight value.

judging by those hands your biggest leak is playing postflop dont put to much thought into these stats.

Solid post Midian, thanks.

like you always put other ppl in a draw and thought you are ahead most of the time
but the truth is that you have no idea what villain really holding esp chk/shove oop just burning money , you can save 50+bb in each situation if just pitch it at that time

thanks everyone for posting, especially Midian since he wrote so much devoting a lot of his time

i did cut my steal on BTN cause i didnt know what else to do ( and i did cut and made strict range UTG, MP and CO since april 1st - compared it to one big winner on 1/2, but i kinda misread VPIP/PFR on BTN/CO ) and it still looked like i play badly worse hands ( like suited and unsuited gappers/suited Ks and Qs - basically hands that dont flop ) so i decided to play stronger hands on BTN ( and i always play on tables with two fish or more, so many times i have a fish on the blinds ) but ok two regs on blinds i will steal much more on the BTN rather than have strict range and do this 2.5xBB raise

the other reason i cut BTN was that i wasnt good at reading my image/meta game so i wasnt sure when they will start bluff raising me or calling lighter, but ok i understand my steal is now ridiculous and i will make it higher

my UTG is KJ+, AT+ and 77+ also cause of the two+ fish which makes a lot OOP play once i loosen up, not sure what add to that range so that i could play it profitably

and im tryign to find the cold call pf win

*edited like 5 times, sorry *

PT3 does not have those stats Midian (CO UO/BTN UO etc...). Is it when no-one entered the pot?

overplaying TP/overpair type hands is probably your biggest leak. Being aggressive is good but i wonder if you lack trickiness and you suffer greatly from it. By being nitty and very aggressive whenever you have TP or better is one easy way for the regs to figure you out . I wonder how do you play second pairs etc marginal hands and i guess that you suddenly switch to c/c c/f mode and it is obvious to the regs you are weak because they saw how you play TPTK/overpair etc. You need to think about spots whenever it is more beneficial to check with strong hands or use some kind of tricky line not b/b/b . To start being more tricky try 3 betting less overpairs AQ+ and play tricky postflop ( NO SHAME WHEN 3bet IS LESS THAN 5%). It wont come naturally ,actually it would feel odd but it will work.

Also think about everything Midian said and follow his advice to avoid situations in which you are either drawing dead or flipping

it seems like you love to bluff when villain has the maximum amount of money invested... if you're going to bluff might as well do it when villain has less money invested + take a line that makes sense (ie barrel barrel instead of a wierdass bet then check/shove repping exactly the nuts or air)

thx for advice