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Daut   United States. Dec 11 2011 23:36. Posts 8955 | | |
It really bothers me that there are lots of huge scams going on in the areas of coaching players. I dont think there is a lot of good/affordable coaching out there. I also want to give myself a way to make more money when I am not in canada and cant play online.
http://www.liquidpoker.net/lessons/teacherlist.php
Prices:
Through January 31, 2012:
PLO coaching: $125 an hour
full ring NL: $100 an hour
MTT: $75/hr
After Feb 1, 2012 (refer to post #20 in this thread):
PLO coaching: $175 an hour
full ring NL: $150 an hour
MTT: $125 an hour
get 4 hours of coaching, 5th hour is free
I would consider trying a different method (ie % of profits) for a reputable lower stakes PLO/NL player who cant afford it. I would try to work something out with someone who wanted coaching but doesnt have a lot of money.
i only offer coaching in these 3 things as they are the only I have been beating the past few years for good winrates. I dont have every hand I've ever played, but these are about 95% of my online cash game hands since october 2009. of this 26 month period, I took lots of time off due to travel, breaks, and the DOJ. my total hours played is listed as 891, which makes my hourly $105.76, which is how i chose my coaching rates.
Prior to these hands, from 2005-october 2009, I made about 200k in NL cash on pokerstars, 75k in NL cash on full tilt, 100k in PLO cash, and made about 30k total on ub/cake/merge total. in total ive made roughly 500k from online cash games + maybe 150k worth of rakeback/fpps.
In live tournaments, I am up approximately 1.3-1.4million dollars with 3 major final tables in WPT events. In online tournaments I am up about 315k total. +387k on stars, up about 15k on ub/other sites and down about 85k on ftp.
http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/...348EBEFEA4DC1D6AD2.html?t=2&rc=229941
http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/...8B98D5DC446155B5B5.html?t=2&rc=292714
However I am not a tournament regular. I only play a few hundred a year and stay up to date on how the game is played, but since it is not my main game I dont feel comfortable charging the same price as I do for PLO or NL.
I would do anything from hand history reviews to going through sessions to watching a current session to theory. For theory I would probably either require more hours or a higher rate due to a lot of preparation required. But I would be fair in how that rate was decided. Whatever the student wants, as long as I know ahead of time.
I am not available at all times as I do spend a lot of time traveling. But in any given month there is at least a 2 week period where I would be available.
I have done a little bit of formal coaching, but not much. However, I have made 15+ videos for cardrunners.com and have experience explaining my thoughts in all 3 games.
either post here or send me a pm if you are interested.
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player999   Brasil. Dec 12 2011 00:05. Posts 7978 | | |
post more results please, still not sure how good you are |
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Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol | |
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wobbly_au   Australia. Dec 12 2011 00:05. Posts 6540 | | |
Im here to support daut, i think his rate is very reasonable. |
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Spicy   United States. Dec 12 2011 00:39. Posts 1027 | | |
If I could still play in the US, I'd definitely take you up on the PLO offer.
But I do have a suggestion for how you could efficiently coach theory. If you have enough interested students, you could just give a lesson as a group to offset the preparation time. |
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Daut   United States. Dec 12 2011 01:10. Posts 8955 | | |
| On December 11 2011 23:39 Spicy wrote:
If I could still play in the US, I'd definitely take you up on the PLO offer.
But I do have a suggestion for how you could efficiently coach theory. If you have enough interested students, you could just give a lesson as a group to offset the preparation time. |
that sounds like a pretty good idea. when i have some free time ill probably write up a few lessons, calculate how long it took me, and make the entire seminar cost $100 per hour of my time. so for example if it took me 5 hours to make a good 1 hour group lesson, i would charge (5+1)*100=600 dollars total, and if there were 15 people in there id just charge 40 bucks a person. ill explore this later as I dont have much experience with powerpoint and would want to do it right before i jump into it |
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Funktion   Australia. Dec 12 2011 01:47. Posts 1638 | | |
If you have used anything else in the Office suite you will pick up Powerpoint quickly and easily I would imagine.
For those who don't know you or your history it might be worth adding your mathematical background/credentials? Which may not be directly related to your coaching in this case, clearly demonstrate certain desirable attributes.
Good luck with this the rates seem very reasonable. |
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flounder44   United States. Dec 12 2011 02:59. Posts 916 | | |
5+ bb/100...
Does it even matter if you get sucked out on? |
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SugoGosu   Korea (South). Dec 12 2011 04:06. Posts 1793 | | |
i remember watching a video of you on CardRunners playing like 16 or 24 tables. If I could afford you (I just started back up again this week, started with $50 on merge, now have $120 from NL4) I'd take this in a heartbeat. |
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ggplz   Sweden. Dec 12 2011 04:09. Posts 16784 | | |
Daut is undoubtedly worth the money if your looking for coaching. Long history of basically knowing his shit and owning it up. |
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TimDawg   United States. Dec 12 2011 04:35. Posts 10197 | | |
im interested
send me a message on aim whenever |
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Garfed   Malta. Dec 12 2011 06:38. Posts 4818 | | |
Finally someone posting a big sample with decent winrate that goes along with rates.
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RiKD   United States. Dec 12 2011 07:50. Posts 8992 | | |
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RiKD   United States. Dec 12 2011 07:52. Posts 8992 | | |
i can't personally vouch for anything besides 40ish bb plo and this was 2009-2010 but daut might have been the most solid player i've ever played against in that field. i improved my cap plo game tremendously by playing with him and watching his cap videos on CR. better players than me have agreed. if i still played i'd definitely hire him for some consulting and discussions on shallower stacks, GTO play, and mathematics.
i'm just giving the shoutout b/c i'm usually HEAVILY anti-coaching and happy to see a coach actually offering transparency and value. respek. |
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player999   Brasil. Dec 12 2011 10:07. Posts 7978 | | |
was obv trolling I dont think he needed to post anything besides the rates, everyone here already knows its the best deal ever |
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Bigbobm   United States. Dec 12 2011 11:21. Posts 5511 | | |
He had a solid rush game as well fwiw. If FTP comes back to the us I'd love to take you up on a few lessons. |
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daysare   Poland. Dec 12 2011 15:18. Posts 670 | | |
| On December 12 2011 06:52 RiKD wrote:
i'm usually HEAVILY anti-coaching |
is that because it makes games tougher, or do you think players should figure out poker on their own?
edit. came across your post in slowhabit's thread so I already know the answer and there is no need for a similar discussion in here |
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RaiNKhAN   United States. Dec 12 2011 16:40. Posts 4080 | | |
Do you think if you finished out your PHD or w/e that you would make more per year than doing this with travelling back/forth included? You would have to imagine that teaching students in difficult classes would also yield more personal satisfaction |
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rememp   Canada. Dec 12 2011 17:14. Posts 480 | | |
Daut, how many hours do you think you would need to put in with a breakeven nl25 player to make me beat it? |
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Daut   United States. Dec 12 2011 18:15. Posts 8955 | | |
i could probably make brochen a winner in 10 hours. a breakeven nl25 player playing softer players? maybe 5.
i also offered someone every 5th hour free for 4 hours coaching, which i would do for anyone, so updated that in the original post |
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NeillyJQ   United States. Dec 13 2011 12:43. Posts 8947 | | |
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Just remember you need to be god damn sure about their tendencies. -Artanis11 http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/neillyaa/ | |
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