why not x behind?

Don't think Im good here evarr maybe if he flats AK?
Ev check is around $0.96 if we win only when we improve w/o implied and reverse implied odds.

Need around 42% FE to make the ev of a bet slightly higher than that without implied/reverse implied odds.


QQ+, JdJh, JdJs, JhJs, 6h6s, 4d4h, 4d4c, 4h4c, 3d3s, 3d3c, 3s3c
is 28 hands


AdJd, AhJh, AsJs, KdJd, KhJh, KsJs, QdJd, QhJh, QsJs, JdTh, JdTs, JdTc, JhTd, JhTs, JhTc, JsTd, JsTh, JsTc, JdTd, JhTh, JsTs, Jd9d, Jh9h, Js9s
is some 24 hands

He'd basically have to fold a Jack most of the time here, if he calls with stuff like AK or TT it's much better. to tak my line OTT

On February 05 2013 18:10 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Don't think Im good here evarr maybe if he flats AK? Ev check is around $0.96 if we win only when we improve w/o implied and reverse implied odds. Need around 42% FE to make the ev of a bet slightly higher than that without implied/reverse implied odds. QQ+, JdJh, JdJs, JhJs, 6h6s, 4d4h, 4d4c, 4h4c, 3d3s, 3d3c, 3s3c is 28 hands AdJd, AhJh, AsJs, KdJd, KhJh, KsJs, QdJd, QhJh, QsJs, JdTh, JdTs, JdTc, JhTd, JhTs, JhTc, JsTd, JsTh, JsTc, JdTd, JhTh, JsTs, Jd9d, Jh9h, Js9s is some 24 hands He'd basically have to fold a Jack most of the time here, if he calls with stuff like AK or TT it's much better. to tak my line OTT

You look so smart with all your calculations and still grinding NL10 and some........ 10k + posts for nothing... I wonder how much time did you waste here your entire life.

1. I think that PF call is really marginal, so lets start from the begenning, 3b or fold vs such isolation.
2. Why the heck are you raising flop? I really cant find any point of doing that esp when you've played ~70 hands against him.
3. Is there anything worse than betting turn here? You've precisely calculated his fold equity you say... Im not so sure:
9 combos of AJ
9 combos of KJ
9 combos of QJ
9 combos of JT
9 combos of J9
it makes 45 almost unfoldable combos... i guess he might have fold J9/JT but in this situation kicker usually doesnt matter so if he's aware of that you're fucked up and will stuck at NL10 to the REST OF YOUR MISERABLE LIFE.

It's NL10 FFS! Just play ABC, pick good spots to bluff and make +10bb/100

This is NOT good spot for bluffing.

Take it seriously man! and GL in the future!

I do make 10bb/100 bro not rly stuck there

Actually I made a mistake FYI forgot to put offsuit AJ etc and so did you btw it's 12combos of each, perhaps good time to review basics :D

He can have some 51combos of Jx, he doesn't have to fold that many to make it higher EV than check :O
Thing is he won't expect me to peel light that often and people put you on a set in this spot alot esp. when I had a clean image, it's all about how many Jacks he will fold dunno. I expected it to be different from bvb because of the size/fish in there thought he'd think I'm tighter so I played it like a set lol not sure if correct tho

It's 15bb/100 actually xD

I just mix it in when tilted after work and when I don't feel like playing just masstable watch shows print money

Btw this is pure confirmation bias from my side there's no way I can respond objectively too late for that so no need to be a dick pal, I like you, you have Nada's WGTnickname

For the exact FE needed OTT I used this, I have it in spreadsheet form just put shit in and it comes out:
EV = Pfold * Pot + (1 - Pfold) * (Equity * (Win + Investment) - Investment)

Can't be 100% accurate because there are implied and reverse implied odds tho

Isn't it 12 combo's of each? why 9?

I have a nasty feeling I'm about to embarass myself horribly.

On February 05 2013 20:09 TheLink wrote: Isn't it 12 combo's of each? why 9? I have a nasty feeling I'm about to embarass myself horribly.

Yep, you're right. I didn't mention suited Jacks. Thx!

On February 05 2013 19:20 LemOn[5thF] wrote: It's 15bb/100 actually xD I just mix it in when tilted after work and when I don't feel like playing just masstable watch shows print money

That's pretty nice graph man.
GL then and see you at high stakes... someday -_-