nit 3b a ton wtf i am always vs better hand here ? i ll just fold nextime pre it will be easier ,,where should i fold on the turn ?

snap. cant really do much else. its 4 handed > he will be 3 betting much wider than his stats because i assume they would take into account alot of 6 handed play. best board for your hand. turn draws missed. he can have a bunch of 9x. turn bet sizing could indicate draw

oh youve only played 170 hands....regardless

+1 snap. you can't go about folding these hands on perfect boards. Your line looks exactly like an underpair to the board or maybe 10s. If he's got any sort of brain he will ship this river very wide against your perceived range

Basically, you have to think what your range looks like in villains eyes and estimate if he's capable enough to get you off that range. Based on his standard stats, albeit only 170 hands, I certainly think this is the case

On March 05 2013 08:18 Hoolz_1907 wrote: Basically, you have to think what your range looks like in villains eyes and estimate if he's capable enough to get you off that range. Based on his standard stats, albeit only 170 hands, I certainly think this is the case

+1.
If you chose to not 4bet JJ here,u have to be prepared to call down all streets with it vs this villain because 4handed JJ is really good and your hand is underrepped.
If you have problems in these kind of spots you should 4bet to make postflop decisions easier for you.

Unless i have a very good read I would play the same. not everybody is automatically 3barreling AK utg vs BB here. I would flat most of my range vs his 3bet. TT+/AQs and some times some other stuff.

On March 05 2013 10:41 the cleaner wrote: Unless i have a very good read I would play the same. not everybody is automatically 3barreling AK utg vs BB here. I would flat most of my range vs his 3bet. TT+/AQs and some times some other stuff.

thanks