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Handnr: 1003883
Submitted by : r0mx0

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
€50.00 EUR NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, February 28, 08:23:04 ET 2013
Table Oljato II Real Money
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 €103.16 EUR - VPIP: 20, PFR: 15, 3B: 6, AF: 3,1, Hands: 44967
Seat 4: Player4 €82.16 EUR - VPIP: 36, PFR: 24, 3B: 8, AF: 1,8, Hands: 856
Seat 5: Hero €69.90 EUR - VPIP: 19, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 2,6, Hands: 42406
Seat 6: Player6 €34.83 EUR - VPIP: 21, PFR: 18, 3B: 9, AF: 4,1, Hands: 389
Player6 posts small blind [€0.25 EUR].
Player1 posts big blind [€0.50 EUR].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [JsJd ]
Player4 folds
Hero raises [€1.50 EUR]
Player6 folds
Player1 raises [€5.00 EUR]
Hero raises [€11.00 EUR]
Player1 raises [€20.00 EUR]
Hero ?

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r0mx0   Slovakia. Mar 06 2013 07:55. Posts 1581

wtf worst hand on the planet .......
tot resteal sb 10 bb 10
resteal vs hero sb 14(7) bb 50 (6)
4b 4 , 5b 2
mandatory all in ? dont think so ...

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You gotta plow through that shit !  

dUUd_   Estonia. Mar 06 2013 08:15. Posts 1840

call and play in position ~140bb deep, cant 4betfold this hand seriously.

redsnuff: bets all in with bad preflop hand and tell me to learn poker redsnuff: senceless 

r0mx0   Slovakia. Mar 06 2013 08:18. Posts 1581

no thanks i am not calling 5 bets man

You gotta plow through that shit !  

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Mar 06 2013 08:32. Posts 15163

flat preflop then man, thats where you made your decision. Unless you have a read he calls wide to 4bets oop and 5bets nitty range you shouldnt be folding when you 4b ever.

93% Sure!  

BarvyMAN   Czech Republic. Mar 06 2013 08:33. Posts 84

why do u 4 bet when dont want to stackoff ?

just call his 3bet and play postflop


Mardagg   Germany. Mar 06 2013 08:53. Posts 843

ever thought about the big picture?

If you start pushing JJ in these spots your AA/KK hands will get called more often when you push,making you more money.

I doubt villain is folding AK 4 handed here vs your 4bet unless he believes you are the ubernit(which he might do though...).

Your are 36% with JJ vs QQ-AA,AK.And you have already committed 11 Euro of your stack.This is really close.


the cleaner   Germany. Mar 06 2013 08:53. Posts 3014

do you have more stats on the player ? verus some players this would be a pretty easy stack off 4 handed, against others i just flat the 3bet in position. you have a ton of hands on villain, to get a better read on his tendencies. what's villains read on you ?

there are no facts only interpretationsLast edit: 06/03/2013 08:55

the cleaner   Germany. Mar 06 2013 08:54. Posts 3014

and as others have said, if you 4bet here you are doing it to get the money in.

there are no facts only interpretations 

GoTuNk   Chile. Mar 06 2013 09:02. Posts 2860

lol at talking of stats in this spot
on a 4 handed table many tight players get fps and 3bet/4bet any2 and do weird stuff, so I would go with my reads first. (others dont)
When that happens, either 4bet expecting them to do something stupid and get it in or call the 3bet and play IP.


TheLink   Australia. Mar 06 2013 09:57. Posts 406

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/1003800


  On March 05 2013 08:28 Mardagg wrote:

If you chose to not 4bet JJ here,u have to be prepared to call down all streets with it vs this villain because 4handed JJ is really good and your hand is underrepped.
If you have problems in these kind of spots you should 4bet to make postflop decisions easier for you.


the cleaner   Germany. Mar 06 2013 10:44. Posts 3014


  On March 06 2013 08:02 GoTuNk wrote:
lol at talking of stats in this spot
on a 4 handed table many tight players get fps and 3bet/4bet any2 and do weird stuff, so I would go with my reads first. (others dont)
When that happens, either 4bet expecting them to do something stupid and get it in or call the 3bet and play IP.



he has 45k hands on the guy! that should give you a pretty good idea of his stacking off range.

there are no facts only interpretationsLast edit: 06/03/2013 10:45

HaiVan   Bulgaria. Mar 06 2013 10:51. Posts 2083


  On March 06 2013 09:44 the cleaner wrote:
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he has 45k hands on the guy! that should give you a pretty good idea of his stacking off range.


i like the fact that he has more hands of this guy than he has of himself

Poker chobo. 

Mardagg   Germany. Mar 06 2013 10:52. Posts 843

lol,thats right


hording   Sweden. Mar 06 2013 11:23. Posts 474

your tight image bothers me in this spot


dUUd_   Estonia. Mar 06 2013 11:52. Posts 1840


  On March 06 2013 07:18 r0mx0 wrote:
no thanks i am not calling 5 bets man



to make it easier to understand call and playIP = call 3b.

redsnuff: bets all in with bad preflop hand and tell me to learn poker redsnuff: senceless 

TalentedTom    Canada. Mar 06 2013 11:53. Posts 20070


  On March 06 2013 10:23 hording wrote:
your tight image bothers me in this spot



^^ this

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

Rapoza   Brasil. Mar 06 2013 15:00. Posts 1612

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Pouncer Style 4 the win 

 

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