PokerStars Zoom Hand #95282506481: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2013/03/09 23:14:11 CET [2013/03/09 17:14:11 ET]
Table Whirlpool 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: CetCapa ($47.20 in chips)
Seat 2: dozz75 ($21.24 in chips)
Seat 3: nowakos36 ($75.09 in chips)
Seat 4: mmishan ($26.67 in chips)
Seat 5: Kjernekar ($22.63 in chips)
Seat 6: GosuRage ($39.04 in chips)
Seat 7: Kotov Denis ($12.44 in chips)
Seat 8: Adoper1988A ($50.27 in chips)
Seat 9: Weissman.x ($14.31 in chips)
dozz75: posts small blind $0.10
nowakos36: posts big blind $0.25
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to GosuRage 
mmishan: raises $0.35 to $0.60
Kjernekar: folds
GosuRage: calls $0.60
Kotov Denis: folds
Adoper1988A: folds
Weissman.x: folds
CetCapa: folds
dozz75: folds
nowakos36: raises $1.90 to $2.50
mmishan: folds
GosuRage: calls $1.90
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $5.70)
nowakos36: bets $4.75
GosuRage: calls $4.75
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $15.20)
nowakos36: bets $16.25
GosuRage: raises $15.54 to $31.79 and is all-in
nowakos36: calls $15.54
River (Pot : $78.78)
Showdown
nowakos36: shows 
(a pair of Tens)
GosuRage: shows (two pair, Kings and Tens)
GosuRage collected $76.78 from pot
Summary
Total pot $78.78 | Rake $2
Board
Seat 1: CetCapa (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: dozz75 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: nowakos36 (big blind) showed and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 4: mmishan folded before Flop
Seat 5: Kjernekar folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: GosuRage showed and won ($76.78) with two pair, Kings and Tens
Seat 7: Kotov Denis folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 8: Adoper1988A folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 9: Weissman.x folded before Flop (didnt bet)
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wtf? i used whole timebank cuz he was unk for me and usually i see AA in this spot ;p
Its funny but he had odds to call my ship on turn... |
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Trolala Estonia. Mar 09 2013 17:33. Posts 2050 | | |
raise flop, he is gonna ship any ace and pockets
but as played fine
NO FOLDING THOUGHTS |
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| | On March 09 2013 16:33 Trolala wrote:
raise flop, he is gonna ship any ace and pockets
but as played fine
NO FOLDING THOUGHTS |
As i said it was unk and we are 160bb deep.
There is no way that some1 go broke 160bb deep with worse then KK on nl25 fr zoom. (i mean normaln players not rare retards)
When i raise flop i would propably got action only from AA... from thinking player of course, ppl dont wan to stackoff here QQ JJ i play zoom from a long time - over milion hands there.
Board is scary so AA can fold also... most players on zoom would propably rasie QQ-AA vs raise on this flop specially on deep.
When i look on board texture I think call flop is best line here. |
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Trolala Estonia. Mar 09 2013 20:08. Posts 2050 | | |
"When i raise flop i would propably got action only from AA... from thinking player of course, ppl dont wan to stackoff here QQ "
So bluff yourself crazy, but I doubt they are so tight.
AA isn't folding. It has equity vs sets and dominates all other pairs.
Anyways I think you are overthinking your players a bit. They wouldn't be grinding nl25, if they were too smart, or would they? |
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Meaby ur right but i seen so many sick spots on this zoom...
Many players like 8/6/1 xD guys with raise cbet like 4% on sample 5k etc etc this game make me sick ;p
Its so nitty... stackoff only with KK+ if u got KK and go allin its rare to see something other then AA...
I play zoom from a long time thats why i going crazy. |
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TheLink Australia. Mar 10 2013 10:47. Posts 406 | | |
Nothing tilts me harder in this world than "slowplaying" big hands only to want to fold because "they can't possibly have worse". Even if you're right and they never have worse then why the fuck are you slowplaying and turning your big hand into a bluff. If he does only call with AA+ here then bluff with weak hands rather than KK. The whole point of flatting KK pre is you think he'll barrel off with a lot of air or stack off post with a lot of crap.
Obviously turns out he was a retard in this case so it's kinda moot here. |
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I think this is wp but lol at fold considerations |
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| | On March 10 2013 09:47 TheLink wrote:
Nothing tilts me harder in this world than "slowplaying" big hands only to want to fold because "they can't possibly have worse". Even if you're right and they never have worse then why the fuck are you slowplaying and turning your big hand into a bluff. If he does only call with AA+ here then bluff with weak hands rather than KK. The whole point of flatting KK pre is you think he'll barrel off with a lot of air or stack off post with a lot of crap.
Obviously turns out he was a retard in this case so it's kinda moot here. |
When i 4beting KK on nit rings specially on deep i would get action only from AA like 90% of the time thats why flat is best option here imo.
Guy was unk, i wont 4bet and get in 160bb deep with KK not on zoom nl25 ;x |
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