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Handnr: 1004918
Submitted by : Joe

PokerStars Zoom Hand #95843940223: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2013/03/20 11:50:04 CET [2013/03/20 6:50:04 ET]
Table Diotima 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Raymond Wu ($202.02 in chips)
Seat 2: wiyoase ($116.68 in chips)
Seat 3: Joeik ($278.66 in chips)
Seat 4: RealCrapDad ($559.31 in chips)
Seat 5: zwitserland1 ($43.42 in chips)
Seat 6: keevo1 ($258.33 in chips)
wiyoase: posts small blind $1
Joeik: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Joeik 6cAdKcJd
RealCrapDad: folds
zwitserland1: folds
keevo1: folds
Raymond Wu: raises $3 to $5
wiyoase: folds
Joeik: raises $11 to $16
Raymond Wu: calls $11

Flop (Pot : $33.00)

   Qc4d2s
Joeik: bets $20
Raymond Wu: calls $20

Turn (Pot : $73.00)

   Qc4d2sTh
Joeik: bets $64
Raymond Wu: calls $64

River (Pot : $201.00)

   Qc4d2sThTc
Joeik: ?

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Joe   Czech Republic. Mar 20 2013 06:54. Posts 5987

Little over 1/2 pot left. Shove or give up?

Villain is a tightist reg, ps pro.

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there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) 

DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Mar 20 2013 07:13. Posts 8623

I'd probably ship vs most. Not to many better hands to shove and your range has more stuff better then AQ then his.


lacman730   United States. Mar 20 2013 07:57. Posts 311

when you bet near pot on the turn you look very much pot committed which means its pretty safe to assume he's always shoving his QT and slowplayed flopped sets. so on the river he's got a 1 pair hand pretty much always while your range is still uncapped. bluff doesn't need to work very often to be profitable and your range is stronger than his here so allin imo.

 Last edit: 20/03/2013 07:58

Joe   Czech Republic. Mar 20 2013 08:04. Posts 5987

Ok thx for comments, I had similar thoughts. Guy had QQ though.

there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) 

lacman730   United States. Mar 20 2013 08:13. Posts 311

i'm having a hard time understanding the upside to flatting QQ again on the turn from his side. i mean i doubt you're ever bet/folding air for that amount so its not like he'll win more money on rivers from bluffs that he would have lost if he shoved the turn so wtf.

is he planning on folding certain straightening rivers to a shove?


Joe   Czech Republic. Mar 20 2013 08:43. Posts 5987

I guess the only upside to it is to strenghten your range after 2 calls on the river so that I cannot bluff him everytime on bricks. It seems ridic to take a hand this strong and add it to that range though, as there will still be hands in his range that can improve to 2 pairs / trips on bricks, so that I cant really exploit him by bluffing river everytime on bricks.

there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) 

DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Mar 20 2013 08:54. Posts 8623

He either has no clue or is trying to strengthen his calling range.


 

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