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Handnr: 1011699
Submitted by : Joe

File: HH20130528 Diotima - $1-$2 - USD Pot Limit Omaha.txt
PokerStars Zoom Hand #99218760507: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2013/05/28 12:22:37 CET [2013/05/28 6:22:37 ET]
Table Diotima 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Joeik ($467.54 in chips)
Seat 2: LenaKab ($235.88 in chips)
Seat 3: ow420 ($200 in chips)
Seat 4: Pkr_b777 ($221.36 in chips)
Seat 5: Happy408 ($439.60 in chips)
Seat 6: Claisen ($1092.41 in chips)
LenaKab: posts small blind $1
ow420: posts big blind $2

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Joeik 8d8c5d2c
Pkr_b777: folds
Happy408: folds
Claisen: folds
Joeik: raises $2.80 to $4.80
LenaKab: calls $3.80
ow420: calls $2.80

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $14.40)

   8hTdAh
LenaKab: checks
ow420: checks
Joeik: bets $11
LenaKab: raises $35.75 to $46.75
ow420: folds
Joeik: calls $35.75

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $107.90)

   8hTdAhTc
LenaKab: bets $42
Joeik: raises $189.10 to $231.10
LenaKab: calls $142.33 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($46.77) returned to Joeik

River (Pot : $476.56)

   8hTdAhTc2h

Showdown
LenaKab: shows AsQdAc9d (a full house, Aces full of Tens)
Joeik: shows 8d8c5d2c (a full house, Eights full of Tens)
LenaKab collected $473.76 from pot

Summary
Total pot $476.56 | Rake $2.80
Board  8hTdAhTc2h
Seat 1: Joeik (button) showed 8d8c5d2c and lost with a full house, Eights full of Tens
Seat 2: LenaKab (small blind) showed AsQdAc9d and won ($473.76) with a full house, Aces full of Tens
Seat 3: ow420 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Pkr_b777 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: Happy408 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Claisen folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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Joe   Czech Republic. May 28 2013 07:12. Posts 5987

Felt a bit spewy, but I dont know if I can ever fold this. Villain is a SNE reg, 25/15/4.

Anyone folds this at some point in the hand?

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gebbstet   Sweden. May 28 2013 07:33. Posts 391

I fold pre


MeProOk   Bulgaria. May 28 2013 07:58. Posts 246

I call turn and fold to a river shove.


Darace   France. May 28 2013 08:24. Posts 255

why shoving turn?


TimDawg    United States. May 28 2013 08:39. Posts 10197

i'm not saying i fold this but if there's anywhere to fold, it's the flop imo

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Joe   Czech Republic. May 28 2013 11:11. Posts 5987


  On May 28 2013 06:33 gebbstet wrote:
I fold pre



Then u fold pre a lot. This hand is in top 32% according to PPT 6-max ranking.

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lacman730   United States. May 28 2013 11:20. Posts 311

lol @ open folding this on the button


MeProOk   Bulgaria. May 28 2013 12:01. Posts 246


  On May 28 2013 10:11 Joe wrote:
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Then u fold pre a lot. This hand is in top 32% according to PPT 6-max ranking.


i can see you are about right, because the scroll on this page is at around 32%:
http://propokertools.com/orderings/oh6maxordering.txt

However, could you please share how exactly you determined the percent?

p.s. I would open the hand OTB too fwiw


Joe   Czech Republic. May 28 2013 12:13. Posts 5987

There is a Rank function in the ppt online simulator. Just type in your hand and press Rank button.

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TalentedTom    Canada. May 28 2013 12:22. Posts 20070

isn't his range AT+ and draws? if that is the case im not sure why you are jamming turn seems like a typical 100% lockdown or drawing dead spot

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taco   Iceland. May 28 2013 12:53. Posts 1793


  On May 28 2013 10:11 Joe wrote:
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Then u fold pre a lot. This hand is in top 32% according to PPT 6-max ranking.


Top 32% has nothing to do with playability.
If you have no way of knowing if or when your flushes, straights or sets are good then it's not a really nice hand, is it?


devon06atX   Canada. May 28 2013 12:53. Posts 5459

What I'm curious about is why he didn't 3bet pre? Cuz he'd be OOP post? How often do the regs 3bet in omaha anyway? Seems like quite a few don't, but then I see mipwnya 3bet like a roided up hippo

as for this hand, altho I know basically nothing about omaha, I agree with meprook


Joe   Czech Republic. May 28 2013 13:23. Posts 5987


  On May 28 2013 11:22 TalentedTom wrote:
isn't his range AT+ and draws? if that is the case im not sure why you are jamming turn seems like a typical 100% lockdown or drawing dead spot



Yea you are right, that was a mistake. In the hand I was too afraid of naked T, which a lot of his draws may contain, but its probably quite a small part of the range and also he might be betting it differently on turn.

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TampaBayMat   United States. May 28 2013 14:32. Posts 249

its hard to imagine him calling with worse here ever.... turn shove feels spewey, but not too bad. i think out hand serves as a strong bluff catcher on the riv, if anything. youre more experienced than me, but thats my thought process - maybe my line loses value, hmmm.

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Mortensen8   Chad. May 28 2013 16:40. Posts 1841


  On May 28 2013 11:53 devon06atX wrote:
What I'm curious about is why he didn't 3bet pre? Cuz he'd be OOP post? How often do the regs 3bet in omaha anyway? Seems like quite a few don't, but then I see mipwnya 3bet like a roided up hippo

as for this hand, altho I know basically nothing about omaha, I agree with meprook



semi bad aces oop with a nut suit it's a 3bet, as is, can go either way but your sb 3b range should be quite strong and he made it 4.80.
Turn shove is bad since you only fold out what you beat otf i would prob call the raise as well, the T turn is definetely foldable because of AT

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gebbstet   Sweden. May 28 2013 17:46. Posts 391


  On May 28 2013 10:11 Joe wrote:
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Then u fold pre a lot. This hand is in top 32% according to PPT 6-max ranking.
'

well I might be totally clueless but preflop EQ means shit to me in omaha, how often are you gonna flop the nuts or a nutdraw with that hand?

Not saying its a bad open on the BN but I prefer to fold it since there are very few flops I like to see with that hand


MiPwnYa    Brasil. May 28 2013 20:45. Posts 5230

shovin turn dsnt accomplish anything at all
id peel again and fold riv,
we have some boats in our range after flattin turn I dont expect to get bluffed riv
that guy is so nitty that foldin flop is actually an option but meh


DustySwedeDude   Sweden. May 29 2013 01:26. Posts 8623

I'm with mipwnya.


 

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