PokerStars Hand #100393039405: Holdem No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2013/06/21 21:04:58 PT [2013/06/22 0:04:58 ET]
Table Musa 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($2 in chips)
Seat 2: el_cafi ($1.69 in chips)
Seat 3: bigjuqc ($3.50 in chips)
Seat 4: HitinTüten ($1.28 in chips)
Seat 5: MakysMaca17 ($2.06 in chips)
Seat 6: ashwtc ($1.30 in chips)
Seat 7: Danie1Phang ($1.72 in chips)
Seat 8: ccvvisa ($2 in chips)
Seat 9: rocagsa ($1.35 in chips)
bigjuqc: posts small blind $0.01
HitinTüten: posts big blind $0.02
Holecards
Dealt to Hero
MakysMaca17: calls $0.02
ashwtc: folds
Danie1Phang is disconnected
Danie1Phang has timed out while disconnected
Danie1Phang: folds
ccvvisa: folds
rocagsa: folds
Hero: calls $0.02
el_cafi: folds
bigjuqc: folds
HitinTüten: raises $0.06 to $0.08
MakysMaca17: calls $0.06
Hero: calls $0.06
Flop (Pot : $0.25)
HitinTüten: checks
MakysMaca17: checks
Hero: bets $0.14
HitinTüten: calls $0.14
MakysMaca17: folds
Turn (Pot : $0.53)
HitinTüten: checks
Hero: bets $0.30
HitinTüten: calls $0.30
River (Pot : $1.13)
HitinTüten: bets $0.76 and is all-in
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet ($0.76) returned to HitinTüten
HitinTüten collected $1.09 from pot
HitinTüten: doesnt show hand
Summary
Total pot $1.13 | Rake $0.04
Board
Seat 1: Hero folded on the River
Seat 2: el_cafi (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: bigjuqc (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: HitinTüten (big blind) collected ($1.09)
Seat 5: MakysMaca17 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: ashwtc folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 7: Danie1Phang folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 8: ccvvisa folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 9: rocagsa folded before Flop (didnt bet)
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Trav94   Canada. Jun 22 2013 00:07. Posts 1789 | | |
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jvilla777   Australia. Jun 22 2013 00:53. Posts 1348 | | |
-never limp
-iso the limper, u hav initiative then bet all flops.
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longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! | |
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Trav94   Canada. Jun 22 2013 01:14. Posts 1789 | | |
iso doesn't work at 2NL. The guys that limp behind, will as easily call the iso raise. I've found over limping pairs and suited connectors to see cheap flops fairly effective. I don't open limp, but I fail to see how over limping is bad? Especially when an isolating the limper isn't going to work a lot of the time. |
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jvilla777   Australia. Jun 22 2013 02:10. Posts 1348 | | |
this is a losing play in the long run because what will tend to happen is you will miss the board often and give up on pots frequently |
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longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! | |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jun 22 2013 02:38. Posts 8649 | | |
check turn. if he c/r you're committed with 6 high. if you check back turn and hit river you can still get most of his stack with a ~potsized bet.
i don't mind the overlimp that much tbh, iso could be better but i'm pretty sure both will be +ev at 2nl if you don't do anything unreasonable postflop. |
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Truck-Crash Life | Last edit: 22/06/2013 02:41 |
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Trolala   Estonia. Jun 22 2013 02:55. Posts 2050 | | |
with small pockets and SC it's perfectly fine to overlimp (depends who's behind, but at nl2 it doesn't matter)
hands like AQo, KJo would like to play pot HU
+ turn stuff ^^^
i would give up river if he x instead of donk, one of the worst cards, any A is like AK |
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Pb   Greece. Jun 22 2013 03:55. Posts 98 | | |
| On June 22 2013 01:10 jvilla777 wrote:
this is a losing play in the long run because what will tend to happen is you will miss the board often and give up on pots frequently |
This is just wrong. He is the co which means he is most likely going to have position after the flop, which in turn means he will win the pot often enough when it is checked through to him by betting, even when he misses completely. |
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jvilla777   Australia. Jun 22 2013 04:33. Posts 1348 | | |
| On June 22 2013 02:55 Pb wrote:
This is just wrong. He is the co which means he is most likely going to have position after the flop, which in turn means he will win the pot often enough when it is checked through to him by betting, even when he misses completely. |
explain to me how this is wrong?
if hero overlimps and misses, villain bets flop we obv fold. we dont have initiative.
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longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! | |
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player999   Brasil. Jun 22 2013 06:52. Posts 7978 | | |
| On June 22 2013 03:33 jvilla777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 02:55 Pb wrote:
This is just wrong. He is the co which means he is most likely going to have position after the flop, which in turn means he will win the pot often enough when it is checked through to him by betting, even when he misses completely. |
explain to me how this is wrong?
if hero overlimps and misses, villain bets flop we obv fold. we dont have initiative.
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and loses 1bb
if he hits he makes a lot of bbs |
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Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol | |
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johnmagi   Norway. Jun 22 2013 07:33. Posts 1424 | | |
Agree with limping it not that bad, given that ppl will often pay you off if you hit |
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Pb   Greece. Jun 22 2013 07:38. Posts 98 | | |
| On June 22 2013 03:33 jvilla777 wrote:
if hero overlimps and misses, villain bets flop we obv fold. we dont have initiative.
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And neither does villain. And he is oop. So unless he is super aggro in limped pots betting 100% when checked to (which he is most likely not) we can bet every time the action goes check check and take down the pot. We do not need to hit to continue, we just need for both the bb and the limper to tell us that they have nothing. |
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