seems normal hopyfully he dosn't have the T8o

dont know about this one. dont like all streets. i think this one is tilt

absolutely hate preflop unless he is a super passive fit n fold fish, he cant have much draws other than JT

yeah you're probably right about preflop, this is probably a profitable flat w/ the fish in the pot getting 4.6:1

For post flop, it feels pretty fine to me. He's the type that's gonna be calling any gutshot, any bd flush draw until he sees the river. Also like the average fish he's likely to raise his nutted hands like sets and AQ before the river AND confirmed not a showdown value random retard bettor (9x, 7x, TT, etc).

KT/KJ/JT/Axhh all in his river range

All junky 2 pairs in his range too right?

seems like 3 betting J6s OOP vs fish seems like lighting money on fire unless good reason

seems kinda bad to me overall. Do you really need to be doing stuff like this to crush a fish in these games? seems pretty silly.

everything up the river is very questionable
river CC is the only part i agree w/ here

whats wrong with cbetting 1/2 pot (auto profit if he folds 1/3 of the time) with equity?

I'm turning a club or a T for a FD or OESD on 13 cards
6 pair outs too that are not totally worthless (turn J can be checked down to win sometimes, 6 can be used as a bluff catcher)

Do you want to check the turn? I could see that being very good if I had some reads on his ranges/sizing but I didnt have that so I still prefer betting w/ the intention of x/c'ing any blank river.

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btw bad form saying this is "normal" then rechiming in with every street is questionable except river after everyone shits on me^^

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ya dont like any street

challenge one of you to offer a reasonable argument why flop cbet here is bad - preferably including some assumptions and ranges

hes on tilt!! lets all agree, i got stacked in 3k pot tryin to convince him while grinding

On August 08 2013 15:58 Smuft wrote: whats wrong with cbetting 1/2 pot (auto profit if he folds 1/3 of the time) with equity? I'm turning a club or a T for a FD or OESD on 13 cards 6 pair outs too that are not totally worthless (turn J can be checked down to win sometimes, 6 can be used as a bluff catcher)

i wonder whats it like to have the state of mind to think that J6c hits Q92 rainbow

looooooool life is pretty sick when even pooruser questions my looseness

btw kudos for posting this hand...not many other ppl would post hands like this. I would occasionally do so but damn son.

I don't think flop c bet is all too bad if you opt to 3bet a hand like J6c...What I'm saying is why the hell would u play this hand in the first place vs fish. Can easily find better spot to just stack him with a strong hand ya?

On August 08 2013 15:58 Smuft wrote: btw bad form saying this is "normal" then rechiming in with every street is questionable except river after everyone shits on me^^

^^ when I said normal I was referring to the river CC. Preflop / turn are the most suspect / inconsistant. Turn bet is contradictory to the preflop / flop play (assuming you think he is a fit or fold fish which makes the 2 streets acceptable, but the turn bet irrational) - on the river there's 48 hand combos of the JT, KJ KT, I would be surprised to see him shove QJ QT or 9x, so I agree w/ your call. But the entire hand is kind of a mess

so what did he have?

river call seems close but probably alright vs a fish with your current read
every other streets are meh, flop being the least meh

On August 08 2013 17:37 Smuft wrote: looooooool life is pretty sick when even pooruser questions my looseness

pooruser actually has the tendency to be a dick pretty often