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Handnr: 1018293 Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]
***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$16.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 05, 10:21:53 ET 2013
Table Descamisada II Real Money
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $22.28 USD - VPIP: 16, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 1.5, Hands: 141
Seat 2: Player2 $6.84 USD - VPIP: 18, PFR: 16, 3B: 7, AF: 3.1, Hands: 415
Seat 3: Player3 $16.00 USD - VPIP: 19, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 3.8, Hands: 1312
Seat 4: Player4 $14.11 USD - VPIP: 40, PFR: 26, 3B: 4, AF: 1.2, Hands: 642
Seat 5: Player5 $25.58 USD - VPIP: 43, PFR: 17, 3B: 9, AF: 3.3, Hands: 23
Seat 6: Hero $16.00 USD - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 3.6, Hands: 1159292
Player5 posts small blind [$0.08 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$0.16 USD].
Holecards Dealt to Hero [ ]
Player1 folds
Player2 folds
Player3 raises [$0.48 USD]
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
Hero raises [$1.28 USD]
Player3 calls [$0.96 USD]
Flop (Pot : $2.80)
Hero:
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Sep 05 2013 10:43. Posts 15163 | | |
this is a fun hand imo :O
We have recent history with the guy, I've been 3betting him a lot esp bvb. 3 3bets back this H2 happened:
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: Submitted by : LemOn[5thF] ***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$16.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 05, 10:13:01 ET 2013
Table Grafias Real Money
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $16.59 USD - VPIP: 20, PFR: 14, 3B: 11, AF: 3.0, Hands: 111
Seat 2: Player2 $2.62 USD - VPIP: 25, PFR: 9, 3B: 2, AF: 1.0, Hands: 1092
Seat 4: Player4 $9.26 USD - VPIP: 33, PFR: 7, 3B: 17, AF: Infinity, Hands: 15
Seat 5: Player5 $16.79 USD - VPIP: 19, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 3.8, Hands: 1332
Seat 6: Hero $20.49 USD - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 3.6, Hands: 1159346
Hero posts small blind [$0.08 USD].
Player1 posts big blind [$0.16 USD].
Holecards Dealt to Hero [ ]
Player2 folds
Player4 calls [$0.16 USD]
Player5 folds
Hero raises [$0.50 USD]
Player1 raises [$1.76 USD]
Player4 folds
Hero raises [$3.26 USD]
Player1 calls [$1.92 USD]
Flop (Pot : $7.10)
Hero bets [$3.00 USD]
Player1 calls [$3.00 USD]
Turn (Pot : $13.10)
Hero bets [$13.65 USD]
Player1 calls [$9.75 USD]
Hero wins $3.90 USD
River (Pot : $32.60)
Hero shows
Player1 shows
Hero wins $31.84 USD from main pot
I 3b him like a second ago bvb and he folded, i decided to choose the same sizing as I would BvB to induce shit and make him think "oh not again"
So yeah he has high fold to 3b like 80% but has been playing back and I expect his range to be a bit wider, and to 4b QQ+ flat JJ most likely and big pairs.
SPOT1: Flop
Don't think i'll get that much credit, but I have 2overs+backdoor and the best hand ALOT. But cbet give up rag turn seems super bad, so kind adoes 2 barrel give up on rags as I expect him to be pissed a bit. Still I guess cbet is good to make him fold total air and we have JQKA any spade that we can continue on.
So basically plan Spot1:
Cbet and get aggro on mentioned cards cf otherwise.
SPOT2:Turn
so I cbet smallish wanting to barrel those cards.
Now this comes, obvious option is to bet shove river, thing is it will be awkward to size it properly if the board wasn't paired I'd cbet a lot bigger shove turn on fd cards as i have better equity and pairs are less likely to fold and my hand doesnt suck vs Tx, so i hate my life vs a shove.
So is check shove an option here? I get free money from floats, if I check I can check shove river when I hit, possibly even cr bluff? And I see a free card but I wouldn't at this limit when he's pissed. and I bypass the issue of hating life as with fold equity it's guaranteed +ev spot as opposed to when I bet and get shoved on unless I make it huge.
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]
Table Descamisada II Real Money
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $22.28 USD - VPIP: 16, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 1.5, Hands: 141
Seat 2: Player2 $6.84 USD - VPIP: 18, PFR: 16, 3B: 7, AF: 3.1, Hands: 415
Seat 3: Player3 $16.00 USD - VPIP: 19, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 3.8, Hands: 1312
Seat 4: Player4 $14.11 USD - VPIP: 40, PFR: 26, 3B: 4, AF: 1.2, Hands: 642
Seat 5: Player5 $25.58 USD - VPIP: 43, PFR: 17, 3B: 9, AF: 3.3, Hands: 23
Seat 6: Hero $16.00 USD - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 3.6, Hands: 1159292
Player5 posts small blind [$0.08 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$0.16 USD].
Holecards Dealt to Hero [ ]
Player1 folds
Player2 folds
Player3 raises [$0.48 USD]
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
Hero raises [$1.28 USD]
Player3 calls [$0.96 USD]
Flop (Pot : $2.80)
Hero bets [$1.32 USD]
Player3 calls [$1.32 USD]
Turn (Pot : $5.44)
Hero
so boys
H2: is that OK? i bet shove because fuck him
Spot1: My plan decent? fire give up or fire 3 a lot when I hit AKQJ or fd.
Spot2: bet and how much, or do you like check raise (or even cc)
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goose58   United States. Sep 05 2013 15:31. Posts 871 | | |
Your 3bet PF is too small, you want and NEED value here. As a standard, you should be reraise a 3x to 10x IP, and 11x OOP. On the flop, you should be betting more than half pot; your bet screams weakness. Even if you make this small bet with AA/KK/QQ, in his eyes your bet is weak, balance be damned.
When he calls the flop, I'd bet the turn 2/3 or 3/4, but don't be surprised if he puts you on AK(low level players always put you on AK).
The biggest problems with this hand is the small PF and flop sizing.
Bet/shoving the turn is a mistake because he's never really raising your turn bet with less than AQ/Tx, so the times you get it in here you probably are fairly well behind.
As for the KK hand, shoving the turn a big mistake IMO. He's only calling you with Ax and flushes, and sometimes with JJd/TTd/QQd etc, but combo wise you are behind here. If you checked this turn, most likely he would check back his JJd hoping to hit a flush, and check back a missed river. Basically, bet flop and c/f after he calls unless you have extensive history on him playing back against your 3bet flops very light(which is a stretch considering the players at this level). |
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