PokerStars Hand #104331292767: Omaha Pot Limit ($5/$10 USD) - 2013/09/19 4:32:07 ET
Table Happelia II 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Alpha 5.20 ($1000 in chips)
Seat 2: OlliPolli ($1709.30 in chips)
Seat 3: dmdj ($5122.29 in chips)
Seat 4: raconteur ($1000 in chips)
Seat 5: p3achy_keen ($1000 in chips)
Seat 6: Marcelosrf ($2243.75 in chips)
Alpha 5.20: posts small blind $5
OlliPolli: posts big blind $10
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to p3achy_keen 
dmdj: folds
raconteur: raises $20 to $30
p3achy_keen: raises $60 to $90
Marcelosrf: raises $225 to $315
Alpha 5.20: folds
OlliPolli: folds
raconteur: folds
p3achy_keen: calls $225
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $675.00)
p3achy_keen: bets $672
Marcelosrf: raises $688 to $1360
p3achy_keen: calls $13 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($675) returned to Marcelosrf
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $2,045.00)
River (Pot : $2,045.00)
Showdown
p3achy_keen: shows (a pair of Threes)
Marcelosrf: shows 
(a full house, Threes full of Tens)
Marcelosrf collected $2042 from pot
Summary
Total pot $2045 | Rake $3
Board
Seat 1: Alpha 5.20 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: OlliPolli (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: dmdj folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: raconteur folded before Flop
Seat 5: p3achy_keen showed and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 6: Marcelosrf (button) showed and won ($2042) with a full house, Threes full of Tens
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n0rthf4ce  United States. Sep 19 2013 07:00. Posts 8119 | | | |
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:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
FLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY |
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I think c/c is far superior to donkshove unless he has a seriously weird cold4b-range. |
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n0rthf4ce United States. Sep 19 2013 07:56. Posts 8119 | | |
i think folding pre to the open is far superior to whatever this is |
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TimDawg United States. Sep 19 2013 08:11. Posts 10197 | | | |
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| online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball | |
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TimDawg United States. Sep 19 2013 08:12. Posts 10197 | | |
| | On September 19 2013 06:56 n0rthf4ce wrote:
i think folding pre to the open is far superior to whatever this is |
do you mean to the 4bet or the orig open? |
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| online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball | |
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TianYuan Korea (South). Sep 19 2013 08:53. Posts 6817 | | |
| | On September 19 2013 06:56 n0rthf4ce wrote:
i think folding pre to the open is far superior to whatever this is |
If Raconteur is reasonably wide, 3betting surely cant be that bad? |
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I don't watch NFL so I'm not familiar with these references, this hand reminds me of this:
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| Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same | |
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YoMeR United States. Sep 19 2013 15:15. Posts 12438 | | |
lol nice pics.
excellent gif tom...this one made my day
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| | On September 19 2013 06:39 DustySwedeDude wrote:
I think c/c is far superior to donkshove unless he has a seriously weird cold4b-range. |
why would you rather check/call with no showdown value; might as well fold out some of his trash. Unless you think its worth trying to get a free card |
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AndrewSong United States. Sep 20 2013 00:19. Posts 2355 | | |
ya hand seems wp and pretty standard |
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| | On September 19 2013 22:40 traxamillion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 06:39 DustySwedeDude wrote:
I think c/c is far superior to donkshove unless he has a seriously weird cold4b-range. |
why would you rather check/call with no showdown value; might as well fold out some of his trash. Unless you think its worth trying to get a free card
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I think we're far, far ahead of anything he folds to a shove. |
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cariadon Estonia. Sep 20 2013 11:00. Posts 4019 | | |
i think that is a big, big overstatement Don't mean to call you out on this and i probably have my PLO cap on backwards or something
i'm rubbing my eyes looking at this hand making sure i'm not missing anything
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goose58 United States. Sep 20 2013 13:16. Posts 871 | | |
| | On September 19 2013 06:56 n0rthf4ce wrote:
i think folding pre to the open is far superior to whatever this is |
PLO fish checking in, but this is my thought as well. This is one of those hands that looks pretty but we get called PF almost every time, we're OOP with 4598/ds, a hand that never really flops amazing unless it's the nuts, our flushes are dominated, our straights are dominated to wraps, even our trips and 2pairs are often dominated or get sucked out on easily.
As for the flop, we have equity vs his range, but when we're called(which I think is very often considering this board and the size of the pot), often times we are drawing to a backdoor. If he's 4-betting every AAxx, and good double suited hands, how many times is he going to have a bigger heart draw? |
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goose58 United States. Sep 20 2013 13:19. Posts 871 | | |
| | On September 20 2013 10:00 cariadon wrote:
i think that is a big, big overstatement Don't mean to call you out on this and i probably have my PLO cap on backwards or something
i'm rubbing my eyes looking at this hand making sure i'm not missing anything
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I think he's referring to small rundowns like 4567/ds that will 4-bet PF and shove this flop when checked to. Those hands are folding to a flop open shove unless he has 7 high FD in which case we dominate. |
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cariadon Estonia. Sep 20 2013 17:57. Posts 4019 | | |
i get it, worse hands. the question is how big of a percentage does it make in his range realistically |
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Stim_Abuser United States. Sep 20 2013 18:11. Posts 7499 | | |
Didn't know it was possible to get it in with only 5% equity in omaha. |
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| Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete | Last edit: 20/09/2013 18:11 |
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| | On September 20 2013 16:57 cariadon wrote:
i get it, worse hands. the question is how big of a percentage does it make in his range realistically |
Very small. But no one folds anything else here. I can literally not think of a better hand that folds unless his 4b range includes like Q + 3 low cards. |
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Like, the ev-difference is probably smallish, but it's like the difference between openshoving A8 or A6 pre, it's a difference and it's hard to debate, at least that's my opinion. |
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Maaaybe 9988ds or something but we block that and it'd be a very weird 4bet. |
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TianYuan Korea (South). Sep 20 2013 23:46. Posts 6817 | | |
| | On September 20 2013 07:06 DustySwedeDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 22:40 traxamillion wrote:
| | On September 19 2013 06:39 DustySwedeDude wrote:
I think c/c is far superior to donkshove unless he has a seriously weird cold4b-range. |
why would you rather check/call with no showdown value; might as well fold out some of his trash. Unless you think its worth trying to get a free card
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I think we're far, far ahead of anything he folds to a shove. |
We have 9 hi?
Given spr I think a fold is the best outcome almost regardless of what hand he holds |
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| Hm.. Off-suite socks.. | Last edit: 20/09/2013 23:50 |
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8765 or something is what he folds. He never folds a T or better, and probably not even bot pair with anything. |
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