easy call you have the backdoor flush

you were hoping to flop trips or better oop?

easiest call in the world

i really disagree with everyone about this being an easy call

how often is this a bluff and how often is it worse for value?...

curious as to the results

On October 16 2013 18:04 n0rthf4ce wrote: how often is this a bluff and how often is it worse for value?...

not very often, then we shoud be folding a hand with terrible reverse implied odds out of position preflop.

we're folding pre flop because we expect villain to overbet jam the flop when we flop TPTK every single time?

fold, looks like AA.

flatting 4 bet pre OOP 150bb deep when we flop this flop if it isn't a board we are happily getting it in on then fold pre best no?

yes I would usually put all my money in if villain plays properly, but this line confused me

I'd put him on KK if he wasn't an insane fish and just a semifish, scared shoved so he don't see another street and if you got QQ/AA just say fuck it without having to deal with a c/raise flop and hating life.

On October 16 2013 18:56 Fayth wrote: we're folding pre flop because we expect villain to overbet jam the flop when we flop TPTK every single time?

No we dont im not saying you cant reduce his range on the flop but still if this is a good hand to call pf oop this has to be a call or ther is a msitake pf always

On October 16 2013 20:35 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On October 16 2013 18:56 Fayth wrote: we're folding pre flop because we expect villain to overbet jam the flop when we flop TPTK every single time? No we dont im not saying you cant reduce his range on the flop but still if this is a good hand to call pf oop this has to be a call or ther is a msitake pf always

+1

bad players will show up with 99-JJ AK here. good players may have light 4bets like 4x, 6x, 87s, 57s, 53s etc in their range and show up with those. would not even consider folding here even though him leveling with KK is a pretty likely scenario

basically since you are in such good shape against other hands, he would need KK like 80%+ here to fold. i dont give anyone credit for that, everyones got monkeyism in them

On October 16 2013 20:39 Daut wrote: bad players will show up with 99-JJ AK here. good players may have light 4bets like 4x, 6x, 87s, 57s, 53s etc in their range and show up with those. would not even consider folding here even though him leveling with KK is a pretty likely scenario basically since you are in such good shape against other hands, he would need KK like 80%+ here to fold. i dont give anyone credit for that, everyones got monkeyism in them

like ffs this is a button raise. his range is so wide preflop he can show up with so much crap. putting a button 4b on KK cause he overbet shoves is lol

also, much more important than the "if you are folding AQ on this flop its a fold preflop" statement is the other question, "if you are folding AQ on this board, wtf are you calling with?" #TopOfYourRange

just got a flashback when playing live poker for the first time, ~5 years ago,

same exact spot vs a donk who I just finished stacking and I folded because I was scared. lol

IM KAWLIN DIS BET

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lol I called, villain had AA