lol

Horrible. bet bet bet bet bet betbttete

i bet on the flop, he folds.

Dude, this is bet, bet, shove post flop game.
I advice to play 100 bb stack.

On October 20 2013 01:17 Gnarly wrote: i bet on the flop, he folds.

He will call any jack or ace pn the flop, any flushdraw, 10q/qk/8-10 plus some random shit.

Bet bet bet is the standard line to get max value here at these stakes

Have you played with this person before?

I don't have to. Since he calls a2 suited vs your utg range. I will assume he calls 10q/10j/jk etc as well. (Btw @ these limits u should assume they r just clicking buttons)


What is his vpip?

why do you even post hands?

God Gnarly is such a bad troll

And given my utg range, if I bet, he folds. I think his vpip was 40. I raise aq in the cutoff and cbet an ace on the flop, he folds.

While I do agree with you that he would call any draw he has on that flop, he wouldn't be doing so against me and an ace on the flop. If there hadn't been that ace, i would've bet out.

um, you cannot combine "his vpip was 40" with anything called reasoning.

I doubt he'd fold 88 here

How much should I have bet on the flop, then on the turn? I'm going to go ahead and say twenty cents, then fifty.

30 and 90

R u real? Just 3 ball whatever size lets you jam river. Do you have any logic at all behind this check/donk/check line? It's awful and the sizing makes it even worse.

LoL if you really believe this guy just snap mucks top pair on the flop vs you? How could you even begin to assume he does this vs you? Have you ever bet flop in this same spot and he folds and shows Ax... Doubt it

>play NL4
>post badly played hand
>think villain fish who calls a raise with A2 utg+1 will fold once he hits top pair on flop LOL
>ignore all advice because "nobody has ever played with this villain before"

On October 20 2013 08:32 Loco wrote: >play NL4 >post badly played hand >think villain fish who calls a raise with A2 utg+1 will fold once he hits top pair on flop LOL >ignore all advice because "nobody has ever played with this villain before"

this i play on pokerhost and at microstakes too and i know all these villians and ive looked at almost all the hands you are posting and you are just playing them atrociously.

especially that qq hand, you try to justify playing that so bad .. but theres no justification .. its always going to be better to win a small pot then to lose a big one because at the end your only getting called and bet into when you are beat. if you dont want to listen to people then you aren't ever going to improve, because your line of thinking is whack and needs to be changed imo

check minraise flop imo, then mindonk minraise call, then donk shover river optimal line 93% sure

overbet flop, shove turn

limp reraise pre imo

you should fold preflop here 50% of the time to balance your range

omg

people complaining about the flop check when the river check is absolutely atrocious. flop check is a fine play in general, but bet better here at microstakes. river check is just bad bad bad

On October 20 2013 05:41 traxamillion wrote: R u real? Just 3 ball whatever size lets you jam river. Do you have any logic at all behind this check/donk/check line? It's awful and the sizing makes it even worse. LoL if you really believe this guy just snap mucks top pair on the flop vs you? How could you even begin to assume he does this vs you? Have you ever bet flop in this same spot and he folds and shows Ax... Doubt it

I begin to "assume" by his history. ie: he's folded an aced flop to me before

On October 20 2013 08:32 Loco wrote: >play NL4 >post badly played hand >think villain fish who calls a raise with A2 utg+1 will fold once he hits top pair on flop LOL >ignore all advice because "nobody has ever played with this villain before"

I actually posted a hand in which I took the advice of LP, which is bet or raise 3x the amount, and I show the problem that they always fold when I do that. Yet, I'm retarded for following that advice, and then retarded for ignoring the advice. xD

On October 20 2013 09:28 pOp3Ye wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2013 08:32 Loco wrote: >play NL4 >post badly played hand >think villain fish who calls a raise with A2 utg+1 will fold once he hits top pair on flop LOL >ignore all advice because "nobody has ever played with this villain before" this i play on pokerhost and at microstakes too and i know all these villians and ive looked at almost all the hands you are posting and you are just playing them atrociously. especially that qq hand, you try to justify playing that so bad .. but theres no justification .. its always going to be better to win a small pot then to lose a big one because at the end your only getting called and bet into when you are beat. if you dont want to listen to people then you aren't ever going to improve, because your line of thinking is whack and needs to be changed imo

>if you don't want to listen to people
>doesn't post advice

If you take all the "advice" ive been given, you'll notice an extreme lack of advice.

Okay, I just looked at the last few posts. Those I'll take into consideration. I didn't know if this guy was thinking I was trying to float him or I was a being stupid call station. Plus, I'm apparently too aggressive on the river, so I'm trying to scale back on that.

keep betting before the world ends in 2032

raised too much pre flop

--- Nuked ---

On October 20 2013 13:01 Gnarly wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2013 08:32 Loco wrote: >play NL4 >post badly played hand >think villain fish who calls a raise with A2 utg+1 will fold once he hits top pair on flop LOL >ignore all advice because "nobody has ever played with this villain before" I actually posted a hand in which I took the advice of LP, which is bet or raise 3x the amount, and I show the problem that they always fold when I do that. Yet, I'm retarded for following that advice, and then retarded for ignoring the advice. xD

You're retarded for not understanding that there is more to poker than the result of a single hand. By your current donk logic of basing the right play off of the result of the hand, if someone goes all in pre flop and you have AA, you should fold because sometimes you're gonna lose the hand. Except that's retarded because poker isn't about winning every hand, and it isn't about winning a big pot with aces every time either. The right thing to do is to maximize EV in every hand, which is what reraising preflop accomplishes. You are playing under this false assumption that because you're dealt the best starting hand, if you play it optimally (which in your view is trapping) you'll win a big pot. It's complete nonsense.

What you showed is nothing, it doesn't prove anything - except how shortsighted you are. It's one hand. Record yourself for a month by following the advice and demonstrate to us how they have folded against you "every single time". But of course you won't do that, you'd rather be irrational and complain about the result of a single hand (which btw at least hasn't lost you any money by playing retardly).

Yes, loco. I trap every time. Lol. Do I tilt you?