Either has has a boat or he doesn't. Have you seen him call in bb with connectors? Does he call with suited aces?

I guess his question is how often he's got sixes

and this could definately be a fold if villain is okay enough of a handreader and just defends PPs, AJs and AQo/AQs from the blinds. The main issue with this hand is that we're normally betting turn with sixes, so that can sort of be excluded from our range

He IS a passive player, no? When/how often does he bet on the river? About five times the pot, you either chop or lose.

donk pot quads on flop? oO
stats+the line just telle me he isn't good enough of a hand reader
I'd call here

also gnarly you seem to be good, if we only chop or lose, how often do we have to be good odds wise to make this a call?

On October 23 2013 04:02 LemOn[5thF] wrote: also gnarly you seem to be good, if we only chop or lose, how often do we have to be good odds wise to make this a call?

thats the problem, the pot is so small he needs to have a massive amount of aces

what amount?

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On October 23 2013 04:02 LemOn[5thF] wrote: also gnarly you seem to be good, if we only chop or lose, how often do we have to be good odds wise to make this a call?

Depends on if he only bets out always with flopped nuts. You seem like you've got enough hands on him to not need to buy this hand for information. If he's defended PP in BB, then we're more likely to fold, unless it's 99+. If he always bets out when he does flop a set or better, then we're more likely to fold. He's polarized at this point, due to his passiveness. He either has it or he doesn't. The chances that he's bluffing when he bets out is probably less than 10%. What has he 3bet with so far? If aces and kings, we can start assuming he doesn't have aces, but he may call with a high ace, so what has he called a 3bet with and how often does he call them pre?

However, unless he has seen you go in UTG without an ace before, he may be trying to bluff you. You call on the flop, so you might have kings, queens, something that missed. Turn comes, you check. You could have a draw, but how he plays on that depends on what he's seen you do with a draw on the turn. Then, when the ace comes out, he's probably thinking there's no way you could have the ace. He could be putting you on kings, hoping you'd call since it doesn't look like you've got an ace.

Maybe a half pot bet I'd call on the river. If he overbets the river when he's way ahead, it's a dead fold. Might be one of those guys who has no idea what to do with the nuts in a spot where he could actually get another bet on the river but decides to jam it cause he's nutting himself cause a woman's touch is something he's not used to. (not literally a female touch, but you should get the image of a high school nerd freaking out when a pornstar hits on them, shaking in his suspenders) He's either got it, or he thinks you had a premium preflop that wasn't an ace and is bluffing you. If you had aces pre, you'd re-raise, maybe even with AK? So, he's putting you on a weaker ace or pocket pair. Though, a lower ace wouldn't matter since you'd be chopping. So, I'm thinking he's putting you on high PP. Unless he's seen you go in from utg with mid PP. I need more stats! If you think he has a HUD, his bluffing chances go up since you 3bet a little more than a fourth of your hands. So, it's either 10% or 30% he's bluffing. Either way, I'd be folding. You're probably going to be confused, I just woke up and my heads all over the place.

There is no way anyone with half a brain isn't atleast calling this.

On October 23 2013 13:29 cariadon wrote: half a brain / atleast .

lolz

snap call
if he lead quads on the flop congrats to him - quads is a unique hand class, that a lot of people (even regs) tend to almost slowplay more often then they should

On October 23 2013 11:00 Rapoza wrote: Very good play by him with either a bluff or an ace trying to get you off a chop.

wtf this isn't a bluff and if it is, it's really dumb

On October 23 2013 15:12 TalentedTom wrote: snap call if he lead quads on the flop congrats to him - quads is a unique hand class, that a lot of people (even regs) tend to almost slowplay more often then they should

This guy a reg-fish, more on the fish side. No reg pots AA6, checks blank, overbet jams 6

mehhh it's a little over 100 beebs not even close to enough to fold here.

On October 23 2013 12:57 Gnarly wrote: Show nested quote + On October 23 2013 04:02 LemOn[5thF] wrote: also gnarly you seem to be good, if we only chop or lose, how often do we have to be good odds wise to make this a call? Depends on if he only bets out always with flopped nuts. You seem like you've got enough hands on him to not need to buy this hand for information. If he's defended PP in BB, then we're more likely to fold, unless it's 99+. If he always bets out when he does flop a set or better, then we're more likely to fold. He's polarized at this point, due to his passiveness. He either has it or he doesn't. The chances that he's bluffing when he bets out is probably less than 10%. What has he 3bet with so far? If aces and kings, we can start assuming he doesn't have aces, but he may call with a high ace, so what has he called a 3bet with and how often does he call them pre? However, unless he has seen you go in UTG without an ace before, he may be trying to bluff you. You call on the flop, so you might have kings, queens, something that missed. Turn comes, you check. You could have a draw, but how he plays on that depends on what he's seen you do with a draw on the turn. Then, when the ace comes out, he's probably thinking there's no way you could have the ace. He could be putting you on kings, hoping you'd call since it doesn't look like you've got an ace. Maybe a half pot bet I'd call on the river. If he overbets the river when he's way ahead, it's a dead fold. Might be one of those guys who has no idea what to do with the nuts in a spot where he could actually get another bet on the river but decides to jam it cause he's nutting himself cause a woman's touch is something he's not used to. (not literally a female touch, but you should get the image of a high school nerd freaking out when a pornstar hits on them, shaking in his suspenders) He's either got it, or he thinks you had a premium preflop that wasn't an ace and is bluffing you. If you had aces pre, you'd re-raise, maybe even with AK? So, he's putting you on a weaker ace or pocket pair. Though, a lower ace wouldn't matter since you'd be chopping. So, I'm thinking he's putting you on high PP. Unless he's seen you go in from utg with mid PP. I need more stats! If you think he has a HUD, his bluffing chances go up since you 3bet a little more than a fourth of your hands. So, it's either 10% or 30% he's bluffing. Either way, I'd be folding. You're probably going to be confused, I just woke up and my heads all over the place.

You're trying to answer a GTO question with not using GTO idea. It'll be hard

not a gto question but basic math question
The answer is like saying 2+2= B