not fair!!

lol quite fair when you overcall a 10bb 3bet oop

Justice!!!!

Baalim is 200bb deep 10bb setmining unprofitable ?

Looking first setmining article says.

Calling a 3-bet preflop: 20-1 on the call of the raise.

What I mean by this is, if you raise to $3 preflop, and your opponent 3-bets to $10. To absolutely call profitably in any situation you need 20x$7=$140 left behind to make the call preflop. If you can pin point your opponents range to being tight and will pay you off very often when you make a set, you can reduce this amount to maybe 15-1 IE $105 left behind. Remember, everything is in a flux and is dependent on the factors mentioned above in this article.

if the flop had an Ace or a King or were very coordinated etc the villian wont stack off with his QQ there, we are also oop and villian can control the size of the pot, its not a good play

yea burning moneyz pre , and if u put him on overpairs i wouldnt raise flop...

lol at people justifying this call pre. It's not the same thing as if you raised pre and got 3-bet (because then you already invested a lot). Cold calling like this is fishy as hell. You might even make a lot of postflop mistakes if it comes somethinglike 257 and you want to peel? or do you just fold every c-bet?

also there is another dude in the pot who can potentially 4-bet.

I didn't see anyone saying anything when longple did this, to be fair

On January 22 2014 07:47 lebowski wrote: I didn't see anyone saying anything when longple did this, to be fair

NVM we are OOP.

I don't like overcalling 3bets at all oop tbh.

Preflop is really bad, obvious stack off on this flop tho. Fair description of what's gonna happen alot postflop from baal, on top of getting 4bet preflop.

On January 22 2014 07:47 lebowski wrote: I didn't see anyone saying anything when longple did this, to be fair

but its easy to understand why ppl didnt

On January 22 2014 00:45 Baalim wrote: lol quite fair when you overcall a 10bb 3bet oop

idd and lol @ comparing longple's games to 25nl games + flop skills and etc.

On January 23 2014 05:46 Spitfiree wrote: Show nested quote + On January 22 2014 00:45 Baalim wrote: lol quite fair when you overcall a 10bb 3bet oop idd and lol @ comparing longple's games to 25nl games + flop skills and etc.

sorry but this is a ridiculous argument and you even "lol" @ the comparison, while the reason people argue that this is bad is mathematical and should apply to all stakes
also
a)in 25nl games people should probably stack off easier if hero hits even in scary boards
and b) there's no "great strategy/flop skills etc" in a scenario where you're either hitting or c/folding

when longple didi it?
if you're talking about this hand http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/1013167 , then its a totally different situation

On January 23 2014 08:58 YooYoo21 wrote: when longple didi it? if you're talking about this hand http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/1013167 , then its a totally different situation

no, not that hand. It was an extremely similar hand with 22 I think where villain stack off deep with AA iirc. I remember because I had the same objections that people have here so it struck me as a weird hand
I can't bother searching all longple hands though

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/912736

If its this hand (its the only one I could find) then it's not even remotely close too this one

On January 23 2014 12:30 jeffv8x_-_16 wrote: http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/912736 If its this hand (its the only one I could find) then it's not even remotely close too this one

not sure, it's probably this hand.
explain how it's different. Is it the position? If we expect to win @ SD because of the position then it means that the overcall pre is worse, because villain doesn't have a monster some of the time so he won't stack off. Also if we peel flop even in position when not hitting we have to pray that villain doesn't barel the board.
I was talking about preflop btw
I'm a longple fan too dude, I just dislike double standards.